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    Posted: 12 August 2006 at 10:04am
I know it's a little early yet but I'm totally freaked of 'natural' labour - seems to be most painful and cause all sorts of problems by mucking up your insides. So I'm thinking of an elective cesarean. Has anyone had one? Can you elect to have one if you are not deemed to need one by the m/w or doctor? Should I mention to my future m/w I could opt to go this way from start or doesn't it make a diff e.g. do I need to be under a doctor to elect to have one later on? I'd love to hear from anyone that has done this...
    
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i had a c-section and was in pain for 2 weeks afterward and dont even metion when the midwife gets u up after the 2nd day ohch i personaly would of rather had a naurthal brith as you can heal faster and is better for bubs i no you are scared and its your choise in the end but go with the nauthal c-secxtions are,nt all way problem free
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I don't know as i haven't had either but i am planning for a natural birth. A c-section takes longer to heal afterwards so in my mind:

Natural Labour = one day of pain and then maybe some afterpains and if you tear.

C-Section = Two weeks (or something like that) to recover because of the stiches.

And also even if you are scared now you won't be later on. I have been ssooo scared its not funny but the other day something just clicked and now i am excited.

Hopes this helps

Edited to Add: Your body was made to give birth so you have to trust that as well. It knows what to do.

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I'm pretty sure that doctors won't do an elective c-section unless there is good medical reason to do one...ie baby is breech or some such major complication.

I've heard some people can be out of action for up to 6 weeks after a c-section! *eep!*

I would sit down and have a good talk with your midwife about your concerns or fears. It's totally normal to be scared, goodness knows I've been wondering how on earth I'm going to do it. But end as has been said, our bodies have been made to give birth naturally and you will do heaps better than you imagine!

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Yep - most OB's won't even consider a c-sect unless there are medical grounds, or the stress of a natural delivery poses serious psychological damage.

I had a minor freak out when I was 36 weeks with Maya and we found out how big she was and that she was posterior and talked to my m/w about a c-sect but she basically told me to stop being a sook and to give labour a go first. Glad I did coz she turned during labour and my recovery afterwards was really quick.

With the twins I am really keen on having a natural delivery because of the recovery time - after a caesar you can't drive for 6 weeks, plus it makes picking up bubs, pushing the pram etc. more of a mission. I have talked to a few friends who had c-sects and they have really put me off.

But push comes to shove I won't put my babies at risk so if trying for a VB isn't safe then I will have the caesar.
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the pain of a c-sec took 2 weeks to wear off and itss not nice when u cant get on the floor and back up with out someone helping me i was lucky i had my sister come and stay and i had been induced so i thought i would get my nautal labour so it was a blessing that she was here but in saying all that i have herad of people who have loved there c-secs and have nevr looked back
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You can have an elective first time. But you can't have a midwife you have to have an obstetrician and YOU have to pay all the costs.
My mum's friend did this 13 years ago & it cost her all up around $8000. She told everyone she was too posh to push.
I've had two c-sections now & I sure wouldn't recommend them.
A c-section is far more likely to muck up your insides as you have to take it easy at least 2 weeks while your healing as your uterus can attch to your bladder & other internals if you don't rest, you can get infections (pretty common) & a whole host of other problems.
Painwise it is alot worse too as you will need morphine afterwards & then other drugs to deal with pain.

Its important to remember that a caesarean is MAJOR abdominal surgery. They cut through 7 layers & then have to stitch/staple you back together.
Recovery time is much longer, you can't lift your baby very easily, you can't do simple things like hang out your washing without hurting yourself and your not supposed to drive for 6 weeks.
And I HATE the scar that I was left with.

If your worried about the pain of giving birth then order an epidural when you get into hospital.

If you want more info I can ask my mum's friend but it is something you need to discuss with your doctor.
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OK, have no idea about any of the medical stuff...
but just wanted to make sure I could quell a fear I had. (Even after the birth)

I was reeeeally really worried that "down there" wouldn't go back to its normal shape after giving birth vaginally.

While it might be TMI... it returns to normal!!!
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Having your insides stuffed up is having a c section. A c section means major abdominal surgery something that isn't a walk in the park. A vaginal birth is so much easier to recover from a few hours after the birth you can be up and about and walk around. With a c section you have to stay on your bed for hours after hours. Then there is the recovery after you leave the hospital Like the others have said not being able to drive, not being able to get up and down off the floor easily etc.

My friend in London has just had stomach surgery and is now trying to get pregnant. She said she so wishes to have a vaginal birth as the cut she has across her tummy is one like a c section cut and has taken so long to heal. She also said the good thing for her was that it was done in the holidays and not during the school term or she would of had to take heaps of time off work. But having a baby is different as you will be taking time off work.

There are a few on here who have just had babies b c section thou often it is not by choice.

Speak with your MW about the fear and she will be able to help you with it. I have the oppisite to you, I am sh*t scared of a c section.

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I had a c-section (not elective, but because the induction failed, I did try to labour!) and have found that I've healed really really nicely. It depends on the surgeon you get, and it does vary from person to person and I'm one of those lucky ones that didn't get an infection, and recovered quickly etc.

I didn't stay in my bed for hours after hours, I was up and walking the next day, and I didn't need morphine either. By the time I was due out of hospital (day 5, but I could have quite easily gone home on day 4 but played it safe), I was only on the occasional panadol. Like I said though, it does vary from person to person.

I'm not sure how elective works for your first child, but having a c-section for your first, does increase the chances of needing to have c-sections for any consecutive child. Recovery is generally 6 weeks and yeah you're not supposed to drive, but if you get clearance from your midwife (as I did) then no worries. I started driving again at 4 weeks. I'm still watching the heavy lifting.

Epidurals are great if you're worried about the pain
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As said before a c-section is major surgery. I think you would have a hard time trying to find a midwife if you want an elective but I would say if you were sure thatis what you wanted you would be able to find a specialist to take you on, this would cost $$ tho.

Giving birth is scary, I know I was terrified of doing it. I think it is super important to know that your body IS capable of doing it and you need to trust yourself. There will be masses of support for you (either way you decide) and those people caring for you have your and your babys best interests at heart. They will help you make the right decision.
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I had a c-section after 18 hours of labour that didn't progress. I pushed for an hour and a half without drugs and wish that he'd been able to come out naturally, but having the c-section was the best option for me in the end. It took me at least 3 weeks afterwards for the pain to go away. I also did not get to hold my baby for an hour and a half afterwards as I was shaking too much (side effect from the drugs given to me to progress labour and the spinal block for the ceasar), we did not get skin to skin cuddles, I couldn't walk for a day, had to have a catheter for 48 hours.... and so many other things that make me really wish I'd not have to have the c-section. Try the natural way - and if it gets too much you can have lots of nice epidural top ups to make the pain go away!!
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Oh gosh, I am really glad i am not having a c-section (hopefully i won't have to). They sound to scary and painfull.


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I agree with clare,I have had two natural births and one C-section due to a breech baby. I felt it took longer to bond with Abby as I did'nt get the skin to skin contact and I can't remember half of the first 24 hours after her birth. And it takes so much longer to recover from. I remember my first labour and being terrified at the beginning but I also remember being more terrified at the thought of a C-section.Just remember labour is a natural thing your body is designed to do it, and it tends to take over once your in labour and takes care of itself. I think everyone is a little scared for there first as its the unknown but you may just surprise yourself and cope extememly well. recovery is long after C-sections and makes mother hood in those early days just that little harder.
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I didnt even want to consider a c-section, i went natural and didnt look back, i think im wierd coz even without drugs i wasnt scared lol

Another downside to a c-section is possible adhesions, i didnt want one coz i had enough problems with them through my pregnancy and being cut open again would most likely create more.

At the end of the day it is ur decision but do think about it wisely and realise there are really good drugs available to you if u want them.
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i had a elective c-section with jack as he was breech and like baalamb i healed really quickly and without much pain....as long as i stayed topped up with panadol. i've had several stomach surgeries before so not sure if that helped. c-sections can muck up your insides more so than a natural birth. i may end up having another c-section this time around as baby needs to pass my scar tissue to get out and that may cause complications.
BUT...in saying that, emotionally i felt cheated out of the whole 'birthing' process. this time, bubs is head down and i'm so excited at the prospect of having a natural birth! i'm also scared sh*tless, don't get me wrong, it's the unknown that is the scary part of it, but i'm sure i will cope just fine.
i had a really good talk with my midwife about all my fears and she helped me feel better about everything and reassured me that feeling scared is completely natural.

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Vanessa - my aunty had a VBAC with her second baby and didn't have too many probs wth scar tissue, so hopefully you will be the same!
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I would say plan for a natural vaginal birth - I always thought a c section was an easy way out and now that I may have the choice of a natural birth taken from me due to my condition, i wish i would be able to experience a natural birth.
having said that if you plan to go c section - specialist will cost you about $3000 if in larger city, and recovery is longer. also you need to ensure that your house is set up different - bathing bubs, cradle / cot higher with lower sides so you dont strain etc...
I would love to be back in your position and able to choose.....
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When I was pregnant with my first child I decided that we were going to go privately so could have an elective C-section. I explained my fears to my OB and she was very pro womans choice. This was in 2003 so it cost us $1500 for the OB and then if we had a C-section it was an additional $500.00. This really set my mind at ease and as my pregnancy progressed and I read more up on birth I decided I could give birth naturally....well naturally plus an epidural. I was induced (my choice) and had an epidural right up till when Harry was born. This worked for me and I was happy with the birth and the outcome. I felt in control through the whole process and I think that was the key for me. It was a fantastic experience and I'm so pleased that I didn't have the c-section.

But hey, its your choice
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~hmmm you sound like me when I first got pg - I was all fussed about giving birth naturally and wanted to know how I could get a C-section. I was really pro it - but as my pregnancy has progressed and I have learnt more about my body and about the whole process I am quite confortable with a natural labour now. I think it is normal and natural to panic at first and to think that a C-section is the easier (and I use that term VERY LOOSELY) way out so to speak, but at the end of the day I dont think that is the case...but it depends on teh individual
I would say dont worry about it yet, your opinions may well change over the next 7 months. The most important thing is that you find an LMC that your trust and feel comfortbale with. Once you have done that, and your pregnancy progresses, you can start to think about how you will handle the birth. If you have a good LMC they will guide you to do what is best for you and baby, and in the end it's your health and baby's health that counts for the most!
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