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    Posted: 22 August 2006 at 11:41am
OK so midwife has asked me to decide what we will give bubs in the way of innoculations and injections etc... and the first question is do we go with the vit k injections or not? Ofcourse this is a personal decision and I know people will vary in their opinions, I have read that the injection helps with blood clotting therefore eliminating risks from bleeding, but increases chances of childhood cancer - and it's really difficult to know which is more scarey and which is a more real risk isnt it!
Just wondering what others think about this issue? Are you pro or against vit k? And Also wondering if anyone has taken the vit k option but asked to have it orally instead of the injection, and is this effective?

As for the meninjitis injections, well thats a whole other issue... wow there is so much info and its hard to know what to believe... before I was pg I always thought that I would automatically be pro innoculations but now that is it MY baby I wanted to know more about what they are injecting into MY princess - and I am not sure which way I swing anymore... anyway, there is plenty of time to think about that - for now, I just want to settle my mind on the vit k issue...

gosh its complicated already and she hasnt even been born yet...
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I didnt even think about it i got it done.
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Yep, I got my two done without a second thought and this chappie is in for them all too....

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In fact, I'm going a step further with Andrew and paying to get him vaccinated against chicken pox next month too. Yay modern medicine (and anything that will prevent the house smelling of pinetarsol).

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We got the vitamin K injection but not the meningitis. But he has been vaccinated for all the others.
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We are pretty sure we gonna give bubs Vit K orally, not injection, but they have to have the oral one 3 times. We are gonna give her all the other vaccinations,..but we not happy about the Tetanus one cos we know how painful it is, and how your arm aches for days after, but actually having the disease must be way worse. Mum has offered to come and take bubs, or go with me. DH doesnt wanna go near the Dr's!
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We had the Vit K injection done, and will have all of the others done for Erin too.
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I got the vit K for Kiya, and we did for Josiah, and will for Xavier... I have a blood disorder that is a clotting factor deficiency... there is a 50/50 chance each of my kids have inheirited it (although they probably won't be symptomatic until they are a few years old) so we decided to give them a head start.

As far as immunisations go, both our children are fully immunised including meningitus, and Xav (and any other future children) will be also.
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oops forgot to say we are getting them all done to not taking any chances

Emeldee can you get the injection for chicken pox? Hrmm maybe interested in that one...
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i had all of them and my view is better safe then sorry and how giluty i would feel if he got sick and it could of been stoped
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I don't think it ever occured to me not to get the vitmin K, I think I was more concerned as to whether toget it orally or as an injection?

And Jess, yeah there is a vaccination for chicken pox. It is not subsidised and from memory costs about $60 from the doc (although you might wanna check that with Maree!) I haven't had chicken pox so was considering getting it.
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We'll also have them all done.

The way I figure it is that there are always risks with everything you do. And there is no guareentee that all the shots will 100% protect your child from nasties. The chances of them falling prey to the side effects are pretty darn low though. Given that I'd rather she has all the shots.

I'd personally feel awful if she got some nasty and I could have prevented it.

It is a personal choice though and good on you for researching it!

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We didnt have a choice with the Vit K injection with Kobe cos he was prem but opted to get it done with Addison. I thought the injection would be better because its only one go and they dont even notice it also and i could be wrong about this but i remember my midwife mentioning that it can be less effective if its given orally but again I could be wrong.
We are doing and did all the immunisations aswell as the meningitas one, I figure I would rather they were uncomfortable for a day or so compared ot what can happen if we dont get it done and neither of them have had any reactions at all so far.
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Andrew is fully imunised and wouldn't even think of not doing it. IT can cause problems with enrolling at daycares and school if a child is not fully immunised. And apart from the chicken pox (I heard $80) they are all free. So its not like there is a huge cost involed its just time and then you get the pamol and they go to sleep afterwards.
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Yeah I was told by m/w that it's less effective if taken orally. Ashlee had the vit K shot and will have all others as well (eek, 6 weekly ones tomorrow ). Apparently she did one little sqwark and then went back to sleep (I wasn't there due to being in recovery).

We figured a one off injection was better than having to muck around with the other visits that she'd need to have for the consecutive oral vit K doses.
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Zaara was given Vit K via Injection (one hit, all done), I didnt wanna force it down her throat 3 times...but again your choice. Zaara is Fully vaccinated (to date).....I dont wanna take any chances!

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With both our kids we decided to give it to them orally because they'd got themselves into the world and didn't want to jab a neddle while they were still getting over the whole birth process.

For Chicken Pox, babies can get them from 9 months on. We have given it to Harry and will give it to Alex as they are both at creche. Chicken Pox have gone around at creche twice and Harry has been fine both times.

My only comment about injections is to make your own informed decision. I had a friend who didn't get them done because her friend didn't. Like everything in life you have to make the best decision for your child and you need to make your decision based on what you have read/heard.

It doesn't help when you watch programmes like Expose - Monday last week about the mother who immunised both kids and they are both Autistic. The mother is adament it was from the injections but there is no proven medical link to this and it has been studied world wide.
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Both our babies have had the vit k injection at birth.
With Ella we read all the pamphlets before she was born and freaked ourselves out. We decided to go with the oral doses as we were horrified by the idea of a needle in her so soon after birth, but then she was born by ventouse and had a bruise on her head so the injection was strongly reccomended.
She wasn't at all bothered by it so we weren't concerned this time about Ben getting his by injection.
She is also fully immunised including the meningitis jabs, Ben will be getting all his as well.
I seriously considered getting the chicken pox vaccine also, as my niece was hospitalised with complications this year when she had them, but was talked out of it by my Dr and the practice nurse at a recent visit.
Apparently it has only been tested up to 20 years for effectiveness so they reccomend a second dose at that stage as it can be a much more serious illness in adults.
He also said that having the chicken pox as a child is better protection than the immunisation which only tested at 80 something percent effective (don't quote me on that). And that only 5 percent of children who get chicken pox will have severe symptoms like my niece did, most cope well and are only 'sick' for about 3 days and then just itchy.
He said so far he has only had about 5 patients order the vaccine, which at that surgery costs $100.


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I agree with you Linda - I wont do something just because someone else is or isnt doing it. And I think that just because a majority of people make one decision doesnt necessarily make it the right one, but then again it could be the right one I am not saying it is the wrong one at all, I just want to be sure, in my own mind, for MY reasons for doing something or not doing something and for me, that those reasons cant include "because it's what most people are doing"...
Anyway it's great reading everyone's take on this, I enjoy getting everyone's opinions, it adds different perpectives~!
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I don't think it causes probs for enrolling kids in daycare/school if they are not fully immunised, I think it is just that the schools/daycare want to know either way.

Definitely research it for yourself, do not believe everything that you are told by people because there is a lot of conflicting information out there, even among health proffessionals. There are some good websites for info, I have them written down somewhere if you want to know.

As Linda said, there are many rumours that the MMR vaccine can cause autism but there so much evidence that this is not the case.
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