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wispy_willow
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Posted: 18 March 2011 at 8:12pm |
Thanks, same to you!
She's in Kingsland http://www.acupuncturehealth.co.nz/ and it's not exactly the flashest location, but was clean and professional, run out of a sleepout at the back of their house. It cost $80 for the hour long session, and she she'd she'd do $60 (or maybe $65?) for regular sessions.
We had to do ICSI. Where are you at in the treatment?
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SunshineWife
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Posted: 18 March 2011 at 9:03pm |
Oh I see, Vitalis doesn't sound too expensive compared to that then....paid $74 for the first session (an hour) and $66 for the follow up ones. He is going to come to the fertility clinic with us on the day of the transfer and do a session before and straight after the transfer.
I have just had my very first injection today, so the process has started! First BT is on Tuesday and scan on Friday. I have also started doing yoga just a week or so ago, and am listening to circle and bloom relaxation/visualisation CDs for IVF. And am hoping with all my heart that this will work!
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wispy_willow
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Posted: 18 March 2011 at 10:09pm |
Oh wow, I feel slightly ripped off now! But at least she could see me at short notice. When I first phoned Vitalis he said he didn't have any appointments because he was going to FA for someones transfer, at which point I was pulling my hair out, asking why FA hadn't even suggested that as a possibility to me! I'm sure they just don't want to promote someone else who will make money from it, but still! Before and after sessions on the day of transfer are apparently meant to be the most effective. Good luck!!!!
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SunshineWife
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Posted: 18 March 2011 at 10:20pm |
Yeah I don't think FAs suggest it, and apparently some don;t even like it when you do acupuncture during the treatment cycle either! But we are in Repromed and our FS was very happy for us to continue doing acupuncture, apparently Vitalis quite often comes to their clinic for transfers.
Main thing that you managed to get in for an appointment so quickly, all you can do now is relax and let your body do the rest. Vitalis gives his clients an acupuncture book to read (The Infertility Cute) and in the IVF chapter it says that after the transfer you just need to try and relax as much as possible, visualise holding your sleeping child in your arms, let the body be soft and calm, don't stress about anything....that's the best you can do for yourself and your embaby in the next two weeks.
Good luck, i'll be looking forward to hearing from you in a few weeks =) x
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trouble06
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Posted: 18 March 2011 at 11:19pm |
Mmm interesting about acupuncture. I know after the ET I have always tried to take it easy particualrly on the sat when I have had them.
This time I may be doing it thursday/friday so might look to take 1-2 days off. I have heaps and heaps of sick leave so might use some of that off.
From what I have read the first 2-5 days are most important and by then the embie will have settled in or not.
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Posted: 13 April 2011 at 5:11pm |
A bit late in this thread, but when we were TTC#1, we'd been trying for 3.5 years, on the waiting list for IVF in the UK, and on the advice of a colleague, tried acupuncture. The issue was with me not DH. I had 3 months of acupuncture (sessions every 2 weeks) and herbs daily, and I got my first BFP. Sadly that ended in early m/c.
Then 1.5 years later after moving back to NZ, I tried acupuncture again, and after 2 months (acu sessions every 2 weeks and daily herbs) I got a BFP. That's my 2 year old DD.
So now we're TTC#2, have been since Nov 09, and have been using acu/herbs since July 2010. Not working so fast this time, but have seen major improvements in my cycle.
It can't hurt, it can only help, and if you are doing medically stimulated cycles, it's a great way to give it that extra boost.
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Posted: 13 April 2011 at 8:37pm |
Hi there
I am currently undergoing acpuncture in aussie. I am really enjoying it. the clinic specialises in IVF and infertility so the person seems very knowledgable. I think give it a go.
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SunshineWife
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Posted: 29 April 2011 at 11:26am |
Hey ladies, has anyone had an acupuncturist come with them to the clinic on the day of ET? I am particularly interested in Auck acu. Last time Vitalis came with us to the clinic, did a session before and straight after the ET, but he charges $390 for that I guess he has to cover his travel expenses + missed appts that he could have had in that time, so understandable. But I'm wondering if there is somebody more local (Remuera/Newmarket) that would come to the clinic and not charge as much? Thought id find out early and maybe go see that person a few times before the ET so I get used to them...but at the same time go to Vitalis for 8-9 weeks before the cycle, so combine the two?
Let me know please if anyone has prices/ideas =)
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Tiff8ny
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Posted: 29 April 2011 at 11:41am |
Hey sunshinewife, I used Naissance (who run alongside the FA Albany clinic). Mary Redford was who I used and she came to FA for my ET. They charge $250 for this. I found her so lovely! There is also Margeret Morris who works with her too.
Here is their website so you can have a looksie http://www.naissance.co.nz/ivf_support.htm
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SunshineWife
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Posted: 29 April 2011 at 11:53am |
Whoa, Thanks Tiff! I like that price a bit better
all these tricks we learn along the way ahh!? Who would have known! I didn't even think to research previously what others were charging
Oh well, it's a long journey and we are getting better and better the longer we spend on it, ah?!
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Posted: 29 April 2011 at 12:07pm |
Your right I never thought to research it either but at the time I just thought $250 must be the going competitive rate. But $390 is rather steep!
I think we are going to go bankrupt before we even have children lol so many things to spend your money on which may or may not help!
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Me 32, DH 30 TTC 4+ years Unexplained Infertility IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 10:23am |
Tiff8ny - I am thinking of changing my acu to Naissance as my guy lacks communication. Did Naissance give you a proper diagnosis and talk to you about your progress etc?
I really appreciate your feedback.
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SunshineWife
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 11:18am |
Hey Charlie, you are thinking of changing from Vitalis, right? I'm thinking the same, and for the same reasons as you! although he seems to have all the qualifications and experience...but I just feel I need more from the sessions.
Here is what one of the gilrs wrote in the Clomid thread about her acu:
Acupuncture I'm seeing Katie Kempthorne in ponsonby at the top of Franklin road...ponsonby She is also a Chinese medicine dr and naturopath. Awesome!!! we talked through everything including treatment currently undertaking, nutrition, exercise ... Energy and emotions...
I can't recommend her enough! She has also started me on cod liver oil (actually a nice tasting one) and when I have finished the antenatal vits I have shell start me on the ones she likes which are high in vit b for stress (interesting aye...)
I'm thinking of going with the one Tiffany recommended as they are on the shore. let me know who you end up seeing and what you think of them!
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 11:34am |
Hi charlie, no she didnt give me a diagnosis as all the tests we have had done with FA and naturopaths etc seems to suggest we have no problems which means we have unexplained infertility. I only started going to Naissance for IVF accupuncture as they were recommended to me by FA. They do also do chinese medicine and natropathy too but I didnt do that aswell as I could only afford to do one at a time. But Im thinking I will go back to them for naturopath advice before my next IVF. I just found them really lovely there and its close to home for me and I found their prices not too bad. She was very open to questions on progress etc but Im quite shy so didnt ask too many questions.
Let me know if you girls end up using them and how you got on. I think I will go back them next month, just had a couple of months off after our BFN to emotionally cope with things and get my mind of TTC for a bit.
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 11:49am |
Tiff, did they not even give you a TCM diagnosis? Like qi stagnation or kidney yang deficiency? They might not know what your 'fertility' diagnosis is but for acu purposes they should have known what they are treating?
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Tiff8ny
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 12:34pm |
Um whats a TCM diagnosis?? she never gave me a diagnosis, I just simply went for IVF accupuncture and didnt ask for a diagnosis. I said I had seen a naturopath too.
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 1:06pm |
I've booked in with Mary from Naissance for end of this week so will see how it goes.
Sunshine - Naissance appears to be the north shore branch of the clinic that Katie Kempthorne is based at. I would have tried her but worried parking may be tricky in Ponsonby.
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SunshineWife
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 1:36pm |
Hi tiff, TCM is traditional chinese medicine. The whole theory of acupuncture is based on the energy meridians in your body.... there are thousands of points on our bodies that can be used for acupuncture, there isn't really such a thing as IVF acu (that I know of?), the practitioner needs to understand what symptoms you have (could be the type of period you get, other sypmtoms etc, not necessarily blood tests and western medicine diagnosis. So based on your symptoms they then decide where there is an imbalance of energy in your body (qi energy, yin and yang) and use points along those meridians to re-balance you. Well, that's my amateur explanation of what it is hehee...yeah, so I'm surprised they didn't tell you what points they were targeting and why?
However there has also been a German study on IVF and acu and I know Vitalis uses the same theory for IVF patients, especially around the ET - there are certain points to relax your uterus before the ET and then to contract it after.... but in the weekly sessions he was targeting other points as he said I had a spleen issue.
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 1:37pm |
Yes Mary does also work at Ponsonby she told me. Think she works 2 days from Albany. She is really lovely!
Oh yea I get it sunshinewife. No she never told me a TCM diagnosis but didnt really ask as I knew nothing about acupuncture before I went. She did ask me all the same questions that my naturopath did about cycles/periods etc. I think next time though I will ask more!
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Posted: 04 May 2011 at 1:37pm |
Charlie, I'd be very keen to see how you find Mary compared to Vitalis, please let me know how you get on =) Good luck, hope you find that session more rewarding! =)
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