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Posted: 02 September 2011 at 2:02pm |
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OK...another question!
Has anyone used a cosco scenera? They RF to 16kgs I think, but was wondering if anyone know how much room they take up (sideways and forwards) in the car on an upright setting? compared to a radian?
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Posted: 02 September 2011 at 2:59pm |
ive got the cosco and its very narrow.high based so fits very well with 2 other seats in the back. I have used it both RF and FF and with a mix of dif seats across the back seat of my subaru forrester. I think its a fab seat for $199 and the independant click of the left & right straps makes it easy to use. the new black covers one out look lovely and plush.
this is the model we have
cant comment on a radian never seen one in the flesh. If you want any measurements let me know.
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Posted: 02 September 2011 at 3:01pm |
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cheapest place to buy I think
http://www.winkalotts.co.nz/Car_Seats/Convertable_Restraints/7168/Cosco_Scenera_Car_Seat_-_Stone-New_Colour.html
Ive found with the 4 harness heights makes it last much longer, my dd is 4 in jan and she still fits in it perfect
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Posted: 02 September 2011 at 3:41pm |
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Thanks Girls Rock, really helpful info :-) How do you find it in regards to pushing seat in front of it forward? Cos if we have #2 in our SnS, and #1 in the new carseat which pushes the seat too far forward, my husband won't be able to drive our car! We have a legacy wagon, so about the same size as a forrester, maybe slightly bigger
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Posted: 02 September 2011 at 3:48pm |
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i always used it RF in the centre so the seats could be as far back as poss.. I used the FF behind the passanger or drivers side. I had a bolt put in the centre back for when cosco has been FF in the centre at times.
have you thought about RF it in the centre?
plunket should have both models, do you have one in your town to try the seats before you buy? but less pressure than say baby on move who are sales people/agents.
Im tall and always have the drivers seat as far back as it goes and dont remember it being a prob when she was in the middle. I wouldnt have her behind me.
My forrester is "shorter" in the distance between front & back seat than my friends legacy.
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Posted: 02 September 2011 at 4:29pm |
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The Radian is one of the narrowest seats around. It does take up a bit more room tho cause its designed to rear face for longer.
As Girls Rock said have you thought about putting the RF one in the middle? It is the safest place in a car and usually you can get the front seats another click back. Thats where I have DD in her Radian.
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Posted: 02 September 2011 at 10:49pm |
Not sure about your legacy is but we found in our 98 legacy that the only position we could get the radian installed securely was in the middle seat. No matter how hard we tried it just wouldn't go in the outboard seats. (love the radian in all other aspects though and have since bought a different car so doesn't matter so much). Haven't heard of the same problem with the cosco but have seen the radian/legacy problem on a few carseat forums. Just something to consider and check beforehand, whether the cosco or radian can be installed securely in your car - in some cars the cosco would be the better option as the installation would be better and vice versa. No point having an expensive seat if it can't be secured safely! 
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Posted: 03 September 2011 at 10:12pm |
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I have a cosco for my mums car. We have a brio, as couldn't get the radian rf in our car. But I have to say I do not like the cosco. It doesn't tether when rf and it feels really flimsy. There is no movement at the seat belt path, but if I wobble the top of the carseat, it pings back and forth really easily. I am very tempted to replace it as I just am not happy with it.
Lots of people have this carseat and are happy with it, so I don't know if its that they haven't tried something more solid like a brio or radian or that it has a slighly better install in there car.
The cosco definately doesn't take up as much room rf as a radian. If you have a baby on the move local to you, I would try them both out in your car and see how they fit/how you like them.
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Posted: 04 September 2011 at 9:30pm |
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janini
did baby on move install it in your mums car? cos plunket did mine when rear facing and they did a great job. my sister in chc had baby on move do her cosco and it is great fit too. might just be different cars fit it better?
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Posted: 05 September 2011 at 10:29am |
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Yeah I had it installed by botm. It is solid at the belt path, so technically its safe. But yes it could be a better fit for different cars. But I still prefer a seat that tethers.
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 3:58pm |
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Thanks, have decided on the radian - can get 3 across our back seat (good for future ref!), and if we take headrest off drivers seat, my husband can still drive while baby is RFing :-)
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 4:29pm |
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Dont take the head rest off! Its there for a reason, and if you have a crash the car seat will slam into the back of his neck. Can you install it more upright at all?
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 5:02pm |
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Yeah, its definitely not a good idea to take the head rest off. If you were in a crash, then his head would fly back and snap his spinal cord.
If you find later on, you need a more upright install then Diono (the new name for Sunshine Kids) are bringing out an angle wedge, which goes on the opposite end to the rf boot. And will help create a more upright install.
I think the radian is great, but you don't want to compromise you or your DH safety either.
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 5:07pm |
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Oh? The lady at kiwibaby said it was normal to do this and showed me how.
Yarnmum, do you know when the new wedge is coming out? Sounds like the best thing to do, now I am worried!
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 5:20pm |
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I was driving a car once that the head rest was off, and was in a Police breath test thing. And they told me off, and said to put it back on, for above reason. So I guess its not "illegal" but when you think about it, it is there for safety. Apparently Diono said around Oct in USA. So it may be around Dec/Jan here in NZ. I'm guessing when the new Radian RXT arrives in NZ. But I'm not sure.
Will the radian fit in the middle seat without adjusting the drives seat so DH can drive?
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 6:26pm |
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Nope, doesn't work in the middle :-( not sure what to do now. The plunket carseat lady recommended rolling a towel under our capsule base to make it less upright, I wonder if I could somehow do the same but to make radian more upright, without compromising the safety?
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 6:52pm |
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You can't put anything under the radian to alter the install angle unfortunately
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 7:06pm |
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squoggs, are you in Auk? You could see if the lady from SKJP could try installing it in your car. As they obviously know all the tricks to getting a good install/more upright install. Might be worth emailing them to see what they say? Or have you tried your local botm? They are usually pretty helpful.
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 7:36pm |
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Yip, I'm in east auck. What is SKJP? I emailed BOTM and to be honest they weren't very helpful, even though they could have had a guaranteed sale
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 7:51pm |
SKJP is sunshine kids maker of the Radian. SKJP to access the NZ site. So if you email them, you will get a hold of the NZ owner/supplier. And she may be able to help with an install.
Otherwise you could try asking for some help on this FB page, they are NZ based. Child Seat Safety
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