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kalika
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Topic: So how do you cope? Posted: 09 October 2012 at 9:20pm |
Every day when I get some down time I can't stop thinking about what should be, could be, but isn't.. As long as I'm flat out at work, I'm ok. If I'm busy with my horses, I'm ok.
I don't do touchy feely emotional talk with my friends, not even with hubby much, he is a proper country bloke. Only 2 of my friends knew we were expecting, so only 2 know our sad news. One is very self involved in her own dramas (which are substantial) and neither have been in my shoes.
My dad told me mum went through the same thing before me but with an ectopic pregnancy, but she hasn't mentioned it and I don't understand why.
I feel like I'm carrying around this big, sad secret. Normally with secrets you tell everyone in the end.
I don't care about cooking tea, I don't care about doing groceries (albeit online to pickup) and I feel like spending tomorrow in bed. But ultimately I'll get up and go work and do it all over again.
So I'm interested in how others cope.. do you talk, do you write it down, do you exercise it out, do you shout, scream, cry? Did you take a lot of time off or go straight back to work? Did you surround yourself with friends and family or take a few days away for yourself?
I wish there was a magic solution..
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Posted: 09 October 2012 at 9:29pm |
Sorry u are going through this. Things definatly improved for me with time, but it sure was a big emotional rollercoster. The sadness and upset could hit at any moment when I thought I was fine too, and the milestones like the scan dates and last week, the due date, were hard. I talked about it. But I had told everyone I was pregnant- I already had a bump. I also was physiaclly very sick for a long time after the mc so I didnt return to work properly til 8 weeks after. I haemorraged and had 3 nights in hospital with blood transfusions etc. I was too exhausted and weak to even look after my kids on my own for 3 weeks. There were defiatly a lot of times when I had to leave or not attend social situations when I felt overwhelmed with emotions- was reminded of the huge loss and felt envious/jealous of others - not wishing this on them, but wishing I wasnt going through it myself. I had 2 friends who started ttc at the same time as me- one now has a 5 month old and the other is due next week- her baby shower was on sat and I was glad I had to work as I couldnt face atteneding and it was the perfect excuse. Sorry none of that probably helps,..but know u arent alone and it IS sh*t, and it DOES get better
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Posted: 09 October 2012 at 9:49pm |
Oh Kalika, I'm so sorry for your loss. It is just the saddest thing. I found the not talking about it so hard, so wrote Los and lots on this forum. I found that although lots of our friends and family knew hardly no one would mention it apart from saying they were sorry when they first found out. People didn't understand how much I was grieving and for how long. It was worse after the second one as our donor is not in NZ and I didn't know if he would get a visa to come back quickly. (I good news he's back now and we'll try again later this month.) also my SIL & brother (who we are very close to) conceived 2 weeks after us (accidentally), so I had her growing belly as a constant reminder of what we had lost. The birth of our niece (the first grandchild and great-grandchild) has been hard. People don't understand that you are grieving for a baby and for your dreams and plans. They don't all seem to understand that a miscarriage is the death of a child to many of us. I found the Auckland miscarriage support website a great resource and would consider asking your husband to read it too as it talks about how women may feel and what to say and do to support them. After my second miscarriage I decided I was not honouring the babies nor acknowledging my pain and grief by keeping it a secret so I told everyone on Facebook. Personally it made me feel a lot better. I tell people in everyday life too, eg if someone asks me if I have kids (whether its a taxi driver or a mum or a shop assistant), I just say I've miscarried two babies. It still hurts to say it but I feel that I am remembering them that way, not lying & also that its good for people to talk about it! Otherwise when you have one you think you don't know anyone else that has. After putting it on Facebook, maybe 10 or more friends admitted they had had one too! I wish you all the best, and I do recommend that you go back and read all out past posts on here. I found it really helped to normalize my feelings and make feel a bit less crazy. I wrote one day that it miscarriage hurts in so many ways, more I some ways than other kinds of death. It's physically painful, you can feel your body changing back to not pregnant as well, the real loss of that 'alive' feeling of a baby growing within you, I felt physically useless and incapable, I felt fat for no reason now I wasn't pregnant, I was angry at myself and feeling guilty and failure. It's just so hard. But as the old saying goes, time will heal you. Express your feelings if you can, on here is good. Feel okay about crying and having the odd mental health day off just to feel sad, talk to your man if you can, and maybe try talking to your mum. Do something to remember your child. (We buried the babies and placentas on family land and planted a tree there plus we chose two special roses to plant near our house.) Take care and keep writing. M
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Posted: 10 October 2012 at 8:23pm |
Kalika, it is so, so hard. But it does get better. I took 2 weeks off work and forced myself not to be too busy so I could just grieve. I did lots of reading, talked about it heaps and was really open with friends. I wrote heaps on here and supported other ladies and that was really helpful too. The reason I told everyone was that I refused to be part of a secret sad club and I needed people to know how I was feeling. I avoided social situations and felt ok about saying no. I did things I enjoyed and we did something nice to acknowledge the baby. I had the remains, so DH and I chose a rose bush and planted the remains in with it. Recently, I have also contacted a counselor at the hospital and this has also helped. I am thinking about talking to someone at SANDS here in Christchurch for support. I know that you will find some things that are right for you and don't forget, there are lots of us and you can PM us any time. xxx
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Posted: 10 October 2012 at 9:08pm |
Thanks for your advice everyone. Kellz, it must have been horribly hard having carried your baby for so long and with so many expectations. For me I feel like it possibly still hadn't quite sunk in for us but we were still very happy to be pregnant and looking forward to a new member of our family. Pepe-bebi and Tan73, I feel exactly the same. Not talking about it is good but also hard for me. The sad secret club totally rings a bell. I almost feel like it might eat away at me if I keep it bottled up inside. I'm considering announcing it on FB when we would be announcing that we were pregnant - so at the 12 week mark. I haven't suggested it to hubby yet so we will see. Telling people face to face I find very difficult, bringing up the subject is just awkward and then my facade begins to crack. I tested myself out yesterday by telling a girl I am close to at work which is probably why I felt so sh*te last night. I've bought a book from Trademe which I saw a thread on here from a few years ago as being very helpful and in doing so also found a Jodi Picoult book which I have coming too which may help. In terms of acknowledging our lost baby I treated myself to a ring with a single princess cut diamond and am planning to also get a 2nd tattoo which represents our loss. Very glad to have support here, very appreciative so thank you for your time and stories
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Posted: 11 October 2012 at 11:54am |
Aww Kalika, they sound like lovely ways to acknowledge your baby  . I have considered announcing on FB too. Just saying something like - "hey everyone, just letting you all know that we were pregnant but unfortunately our baby died at 11 weeks gestation" - I was going to attach my ticker as well. I haven't done it yet because there are also some people on there from my professional world that I wouldn't want to inform, but I might do it yet. I have emailed lots of people who are close to us though. Good luck with what you decide to do. BTW, how did things pan out in the end? Did you go naturally or medical management or D&C?
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Posted: 11 October 2012 at 9:19pm |
I guess I was lucky in that my body was extremely efficient in dealing with this, from the day the pains started to the day the bleeding subsided was about one week and the 2nd scan showed no more fetal sac and the lining was all back to normal too so need for medication or surgery. My HCG levels dropped from 5000 to 111 in 8 days.
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Posted: 09 November 2012 at 6:29am |
I would just like to thank you Pepi-bebe for giving me the strength to make an announcement on facebook. I wasn't as brave as you, so only made the announcement to the people I have met through being a mum to my 2yo daughter. But since having her I have had 2 mc a 8 weeks, a partial molar at 16 weeks and this time mc at 12. The support since announcing on fb has been amazing. I'm so glad you put the idea out there. I never would have considered it before reading your post. Hopefully this time people will think twice before asking questions like when I'm going to have number 2. Cringe!
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Posted: 12 November 2012 at 8:39pm |
So pleased you feel better Bubble, the ladies here are great for advice It's so awkward when people say things like that, I don't blame them though, they don't know any better, I just answer like nothing is any different and change the subject. Actually the previous general manager asked over the phone if I was UTD yet and I just said "no but thanks for asking" lol
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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 7:06pm |
I miscarried last week at almost 8 weeks. It was my first pregnancy. It took us almost ten months to get pregnant and we had been so excited. Being a mother is more important to me than just about anything. I have been ridiculously up and down since then. Some days I kind of forget and am able to be happy and laugh and live my life. But then something will remind me; seeing a baby playing at the park, remembering a plan I had for my child, remembering our visit to the midwife two days before I started bleeding. And I will cry and cry at what could have been, what should have been. I have done a lot of crying over the last couple of weeks. I know there's nothing I did wrong, but I can't help going down the path of "what if I had done this/hadn't done that".
I took a few days off one of my jobs but I had unfortunately just started a new job and didn't want to take a whole lot of sick leave in my first few weeks so I worked right through my miscarriage, which was really hard, especially as I am a teacher and that means working with kids.
I am still bleeding almost two weeks later but my scan on Monday showed that there is little left and it should finish soon.
I had told a few friends (the ones who knew we were trying) and our families and sent them a private message to let them know what had happened. Weirdly, I don't want to talk about it to anyone other than my husband. My in-laws keep saying to let them know when I'm ready to talk but I don't think I'll ever want to talk to them about it. But at the same time, I want everyone to know. It feels really strange that most of my friends have no idea what I am going through and I kind of do want to announce it on facebook or just shout it out to the world. Maybe I'll do that when I'm coping a bit better myself.
The only thing keeping me going at the moment is the knowledge that I can get pregnant (we had been starting to worry) and that I will try again really soon. I only hope it does not take as long this time. I put all the baby things (pregnancy books, donated clothes from friends and family, my scan picture and the pregnancy test) in a box and I won't open it again until I am pregnant again. That's part of my coping mechanism, not having to look at those things and be constantly reminded.
I am Jewish and friends have told me that miscarriages happen when the soul of your baby is so high that all they need to achieve can be done in a few weeks in your womb, that they are too lofty to really cope in this physical world so just have a taste of it. At first, that didn't help at all, but it is starting to I think. Only next time, G-d willing, I would like a more lowly soul that requires an entire lengthy lifetime to complete his/her purpose.
This is honestly the hardest thing that I have ever had to go through and I can only pray that neither me nor any of you should ever have to go through this again!!
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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 9:24pm |
Tamarian sorry for your loss. You are in the right place. We do know something of what you're going through - not all of it because each person's journey is different, but we too have felt that pain, lost those hopes and dreams and joy. Being a bit further down the road, I can tell you to let the tears come when they come and enjoy the times when you feel good. You will tell people in your own time and feel more like sharing as time goes on. For now, just share with the people you want to share with and never feel obliged or guilty about who you share with. Have you been able to do something to acknowledge the baby in some way? Doing a few things to acknowledge my little one really helped the healing process. I am a Christian and for me it helped to know that while God never meant it to happen, He is walking with me through this. We are trying again now and it has been stressful but it is getting easier. Take care of yourself, and if you need the odd day off, take it. There are few other jobs more demanding of yourself than teaching - I am a teacher too. I'm always only a PM away if you want to vent or ask anything.
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Posted: 16 November 2012 at 7:38pm |
Thank you tan73!
I ordered a flower bud charm and I'm going to buy a charm bracelet. When I have other children, I will get open flower charms for each of them. That way all my children will be represented. I think this will help with closure. I love the idea of planting a tree but I rent so... There's a certain charity organisation that plants trees in Israel so I may pay for a tree in memory of my baby that way.
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Posted: 16 November 2012 at 9:58pm |
Hi Tamar, hugsxx I have been thinking about you as we miscarried about the same time and good to see you in here. I agree with Tan that we will never completely understand each other as our experiences are different but we do have an understanding. I understand what you mean about not talking to people-I still don't want to talk to some people about it-mostly close relatives and my mother is finding that really hard. She did try to get me to talk on the phone about it the other day and she siad "at least it didn't happen further along", at the time I didn't say much to that but later it made me really angry-what does that mean?I have now told quite a few firends and that has been a great support-especially the ones that have been through this. So sorry you have had to keep working, that is really tough. I didn't have a scan but had hcg blood test today, get results in the morning and will probably get it repeated until it is 0. Are you getting hcg tests? That is a lovely idea about getting a tree planted in Israel. I am not usually a jewellery wearer but love the flower bud idea, do you mind if I ask where you have ordered that from?
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Posted: 17 November 2012 at 8:49am |
Tamarian so sorry to hear you have been through a MC I totally agree with you it is one of the hardest things I have ever been through, harder than all the EQs we have put up with down here, and I know you get sick of hearing it but 'it will get easier' I think Tan may have said earlier that when you feel like crying, then let yourself, it is good therapy in itself. Your partner will know why and understand. Even if the thing that set you off is dropping your toast on the ground or something trivial! This is probably going to sound quite ridiculous but I think this was my turning point.. I'd had quite a rough week, I was a bit fed up with everyone and everything, but then on Friday I'd had a really good day at work and came home in the best mood of the whole week. Hubby had to tell me one of his farm dogs who he brought home with him to collect the trailer had hunted out and killed my pet bantam rooster. I just bawled. This lovely little guy (Roger) had been dumped at our proprty a few months back, had clearly been a pet as he had clipped wings and was friendly and he'd made himself at home with my bantam hen (who isn't friendly) and was such a cutie, he'd come if you called him and eat our your hand etc and here I was, had a bad week but was in a great mood and I couldn't believe THIS had now happened. I felt a bit silly, here's a 30 year old woman crying over a rooster but it was that on top of everything else, but I really think that 'breakdown' helped me clear out a lot of the sadness I was holding back. I think your idea of a charm bracelet is lovely, its a visible reminder that you will cherish forever
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Posted: 17 November 2012 at 11:12pm |
This is the link to the charm I ordered:
http://www.karensilverhut.com/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=148758&c=132443&i=232007221
Kalika - reading your post, I'm pretty sure I would have cried at the rooster thing even at the best of times and it wouldn't take much (maybe a bad day or being overtired) to make me cry at dropped toast. So you can imagine how much I am crying over this. My husband has been saying the same thing - to let myself cry whenever I need to and I think it has helped.
Mumma2One - I haven't been having the blood tests but my bleeding has virtually stopped now so I guess all is back to normal. I am really struggling with talking to people about it. Apart from my husband, and to a lesser extent my mum, I can't really talk properly to anyone about it. I just don't feel like they understand. Especially my in-laws. I'm not especially close to them anyway and having them nagging me to talk to them really isn't helping. I'm sure they are only trying to help, as I am sure your mum was, but I think with something as personal and as devastating as this I should be the only person who gets to decide how I cope and how I grieve.
Even my mum, who has been great throughout this and has been there for me in so many ways, is pressuring me to wait before trying again (she was not especially supportive of us trying in the first place). If I had a child already, I might wait a while to heal but, because I don't. I think I actually need to get pregnant again to help the healing process. I need a positive experience of pregnancy and I need some of the dashed hopes and dreams to be revived. Every baby on the street is going to make me miserably jealous until that point so there's no point delaying it any longer. Besides, it took us 9 months to get pregnant in the first place. Obviously, this is a personal thing but I wish she would respect my need to cope in my own way. Sorry, that's my late night rant out of the way.
Speaking of trying again, have you all been told the same "wait until you have had one normal period" thing? Any idea what the reasons for this are? Not sure if this is really possible for us unless it is actually dangerous and when I was told I was too upset to ask. According to Jewish law, physical contraception is forbidden and I don't want to go on the pill because it might mess up my cycles.
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Posted: 18 November 2012 at 8:56am |
I think they recommend you wait just so that your body can get back to normal hormone levels. The window of opportunity to actually fall pregnant is a matter of days so if you are tracking you could just make sure you abstain over those days mid-cycle and wouldn't need contraceptive (my non-medical, non-professional advice!)
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