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    Posted: 13 May 2007 at 8:52am
am doing an essay on boys and education for my English education paper at massey and have been doing a lot of reading.

one thing I read about recently was really interesting and was wondering what everyone else thought. it said that boys connect wioth people and bond with people through physical contact - often looking quite violent, and rather than saying "no kicking, no punching, etc" we should look for ways to incorporate this behaviour, such as getting the boys to recognise when this behaviour is hurtful, when it isn't appropriate, and when it isn't wanted.   and teaching them these things is more important than saying "no" strsight out.

Personally Jake and taine wrestle a lot and I had been saying "no" constantly, but then noticed that Taine - for the most part- doesn't mind. well, until he's knocked into the coffee table and cut his lip, But that would be teaching Jake more about appropriateness and situation and stuff. Dunno.

I'\m expecting to find LOTS of interesting facts to share, so you may find a few boring threads here and there - feel free to comment or ignore!
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i dont think kicking is ever appropriate. i think that physical contact doesnt have to involve violence either. my boys have taken lately to hugging each other when they see the other in the morning...but their fave game is jumping on mummy and each other. wrestling is fun but feet are to be kept to themselves.
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any tips and facts on boys will be most welcome. Ive always well hated is a strong word but not liked little boys, they are rough and well boys and now i have one of my own (who i love to bits of course and wouldnt change for anything) I want to make sure i raise him to be caring and respectful but not a mummies boy so yeah as i said any tips on boys would be great!!!
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Il be all for info on boys now that i have 2 (well almost!! lol).
My boy doesnt kick or fight back when he is being picked on - he just screams and tells them (generally my nephew!) to stop hurting him which my sis (its her son) is always telling me that im teaching my son to be a puff by not fighting back as he is going to be picked on at school anyway but Bays daycare (also my nephews) has told me that they much prefer what Bay does now to fighting back! so i dunno whether im making him into a "puff"??????? anyway i guess that was a little off the subject! lol
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I'm still not sure on the whole topic - Jake isn't especially able to speak well enough to communicate his feelings (according to this book - typical of boys), so physical behaviour is how he communicates. Apparently phrases like "use your words" disadvantage boys as they aren't as verbal. still a bit up in the air to deciding whether I agree with this BUT am trying to decide whether I think this because I am an overally verbal person (can ya tell!?) or because I don't think it's a good idea full-stop......ugh, theories!
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Have you read that Celia Lashlie book "He'll be ok?" it's pretty good. Not really aimed at boys our sons age, but still a great read. Will follow this thread with intrest!

I find myself saying to Jake, who does'nt hit *much* just the dog, anyhow, "we don't hit Tui, Tui is our friend and we don't hit our friends" and "we don't hit in our house" he usuallt says "sowwy" and gives whatever he just wacked a kiss. he is a very physical wee boy, though, very rough and tumble.
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i find "use your words" not an effective tool with kids of either sex. i can just imagine a kid thinking "what words?" i have a lady at playgroup who says this all the time to her boy and i dont think i have ever heard him say anything at all.
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apparently it's Montessori's mantra (well, in the US anyway)
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I teach at an all boys school and we always comment on the amount of "touching" boys do. They are constantly pushing each other, head locks etc, just general rough and tumble and these are teenage boys! They seem to really like the physical side of things but its banned in the class room. watching them walk down the corridors is very interesting tho with the wee nudges etc...none of it is intentional violence just the need for contact.
       
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I laugh (to myself) when I hear someone say "use your words"... Jake dosen't know enough words to use!!, or, the chosen word is NO!
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