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Topic: My girls wont stop fighting! Posted: 04 August 2007 at 4:40pm |
ARRRGGHHHH!!! I'm just about tearing my hair out with these two! I have two girls - Charis (3.5yrs), and Livia, (almost 2yrs).
They won't stop fighting! They shout and push and hit each other. I've tried talking to them, telling them to use their words (and demonstrating) and gentle hands, I've tried separating them, giving time outs, and lately I've resorted to (looks over shoulder and whispers) smacking! I HATE smacking them, but I'm at the end of my tether and have no idea what to do!! I've also been shouting at them a lot because they get so loud (shouting at each other or crying because someone got hit) that the only way I can get them to listen is to shout. Often I'll do it because I've tried everything else and nothing's worked and I've just had enough! Up until lately I've haven't been one to smack or to shout, and I hate myself for doing it. But I can't stand their fighting either. What do I do??? Has anyone got any good ideas? Another issue is that they often start fighting when I'm out of the room, and then I don't know who started it or what it was about (my 3.5 yr old used to always tell me what happened, but just recently she's figured out how to lie and so I don't know if I'm getting the true story). So then I don't know how to go about disciplining them, or who was in the wrong!
Am I expecting too much of them to be able to play together nicely for half an hour while I get stuff done? Surely I shouldn't have to sit and supervise them every second of the day? Or do I? Our days seem so tense - I'd just love a nice peaceful day where we can enjoy each other's company and not be shouting and crying and whinging at each other (myself included!!). Any ideas gratefully welcome!!
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busymum
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Posted: 04 August 2007 at 5:06pm |
Hi kebe my older two girls are the same age as yours so I'll just share some of where they are at. I do often leave them to play while I have a shower or hang out the washing etc, so I think you're right to expect that that is ok and you don't need to supervise that age all the time! Recently sharing has altered a bit to turn-taking, ie when I hang washing they often want to play on the trampoline but the younger one (Briona) freaks out when the older one (Hannah) jumps her. So I tell them they have two minutes each. Usually Briona will jump first and Hannah will sit on the edge of the mat, then (I will prompt Briona when necessary) after about 2 minutes Briona is to sit down and say "your turn" to Hannah. And two minutes later, it reverses again. Hannah doesn't always need prompting but Briona usually does.
We have about 3 mornings out per week (Mon-Fri) where we visit the puzzle library/playgroup and groceries; coffee group; and music group (like Mainly Music). And the days in between we usually are at home and I do expect them to play together nicely. I try to involve them with some of the housework (like putting away their clothes and loading the dishwasher) but usually they choose to play anyway. If Hannah gets bored or tired she'll do some pretty silly things and she has to take a book to our family room (or her bedroom) and when she's 'read' it she can come back. If Briona gets like that she has to sit/lie on the couch with her doll and a rug (which she does like, but at this time she has to) for a minute or two. If she doesn't seem better after then I would put her to bed, but it doesn't usually come to that.
Briona still sleeps in the daytime, Hannah sometimes does. While it's tempting to put them down at the same time, I've found it better to do a puzzle (or some activity that Briona is too young for) together with her after Briona is in bed but before Hannah's rest. I try to do other activities with them individually during the day, or read a book to both, or help them both do different puzzles at the same time.
I guess a lot of it comes down to "if you won't play nicely, I'll have to (send you to bed) (take that toy away until lunchtime) (etc)" and I insist that the offender apologise when the other one gets hurt.
Some other ideas are to encourage teamwork: like making ham and cheese sandwiches for example, you do the butter, Miss 3 does the ham and Miss 2 does the cheese etc. And make sure you do spend a bit of time with each every day to rule out 'attention-seeking'.
That's about all I can think of for now.
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Posted: 04 August 2007 at 5:15pm |
Thanks for that busymum - that's actually really helpful. At the moment my younger daughter still has a sleep every day, and my older one will have a day sleep around 3 times a week (if she doesn't sleep I try to get her to rest on the couch with a dvd for an hour). I usually try to get them to sleep (or rest) at the same time so that I can have some time to myself, but I think you're right about putting them down separately and giving them individual time. There are quite a few things that I'd like to do with Charis but never get around to because Livia's too young to do it. So I think that's a really good idea. I feel like I'm always telling them they have to share too, which must be really annoying, so giving them some one-on-one time will help with that as well. They'll have at least SOME time in the day that they don't have to share! :)
Thanks, that's great!! I'll start tomorrow and let you know how we get on :)
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my2angels
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Posted: 05 August 2007 at 7:11am |
hi Kelly! nice to see you on OB!
My sister has two girls same age and they fight all the time too. Now they have a little brother they fight over him most of the time and I think she doesnt know what to do either. Do all kids fight like this? I know I fought with my brothers and sisters all the time and Im heaps younger than them
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