he doesnt think it will ever happen

It's kind of easy to forget how all this affects out DHs/DPs/DFs. I know mine was struggling with the whole IF thing very quietly, and then just before our last specialist appointment pretty much spontaneously combusted one night when we were at the park, and that's when I realised how stressed he's been Then, just after the appointment he got really sick with the flu and took a few days off work - and he hasn't had the flu in all the time I've known him, so I think it's a stress thing as well.

It's so hard, this IF ride, but as you go you find ways to cope, like the other girls have said, and you find ways to make the most of what you have, and appreciate each other as well. It doesn't mean that things become easy, you just find your groove a bit, and it helps you get from one step to the next.

I also remember saying to DH exactly what your DH said to you too, and I remember how upset he was when I said it. I think the thing is that as time goes by, and you keep doing battle, it gets harder to see the end of it. Keep your chin up though chicky babe - you've got a long way to go before your options are out. You're on the very first step with IF treatment and there are lots of other things to try if this one doesn't work out, and each one increases your chances that much more. Sometimes I feel terrified that we are starting out at the end (ICSI IVF), but when you think how good the chance are, there really is no need to be scared at this point

Have a fab weekend!!

Oooo ... I like your gut! It's god a good attitude!!

Hey Noodle
I think that some of the things we say are coping mechanisms, and not really what we truly hope and believe.

My DH was similar. It was only when we got pregnant that he fully spoke about how inadequate he had been feeling. It was such a relief for him. I think because his closest mates had all "got pregnant" recently, and because one doctor had told him he had a low sperm count after one test. When we went to a decent specialist he explained that you have to have multiple tests to get an idea of sperm count etc.. but I think that one low sperm count result REALLY hit him hard (understandably).

To be honest, while we were trying I was confident that I was able to conceive, and I thought that DH's sperm count was a factor. BUT at around the 1 year mark, I realised that it was ME that needed the time to come to terms with having a baby (even though I wanted one desparately), and I needed to make some space in my life for raising a baby with all the positive values I had gained from my parents. So I decided I needed to work less and get fit.

What I'm trying to say in my rambling, is that I think when the time is right you will get pregnant. Keep positive and give DH lots of hugs!

Good vibes and baby dust to you and everyone else trying xx