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Topic: Advice Please Ladies.. Posted: 24 March 2009 at 4:20pm |
I have an issue... Im not sure if I am just being sensitive or if this person is just being really selfish... But its really bothering me, and just need an outside opinion. But will start at the start huh!
This is about a mutual friend of my cousin and myself (but she is my cousins best friend)
We are all very close, all used to go out for coffees, shopping and all party together, when my cousin couldn't go out we used to have a blast and go to gigs etc... None of us ever felt put out if the other couldn't make it. Everything was sweet.
My cousin and her boyfriend decided they were going to have a baby so she stopped going out, apart from the odd coffee catch ups, then I met my guy and we fell pregnant. And 2 other friends had fallen pregnant. This particular friend had also wanted to have a baby as 'the other girls are too" but her boyfriend at the time wasnt ready for it and it kinda freaked him at, but as it was what she really wanted he gave in and decided they will try. She turned into spermzilla and their relationship ended a short while after. Round the same time I had missed MC so was a mess, her response "well least you can drink again". But I did notice she kept her distance.
We tried again, and this time around things are going along nicely with bubs.
A few months ago we all went to another friends baby shower, the friend who wanted a baby was really rude, unless she was holding the conversation (about her hair, nails, men) she was on her cellphone and would just ignore all conversation regarding the other girls babies.
I announced I was pregnant to the girls when we were all leaving and they were all happy since this is my first, but this friend didn't really acknowledge anything instead moaning how she hopes she can get home again cos shes running low on petrol.
That was a few months ago, I haven't heard anything from her since she found out, she has still caught up with the other girls (as they meet up for drinks and coffee) but I haven't gotten an invite at all, I have asked her over or if she wants to catch up and she says she doesn't have enough petrol.
At my birthday tea start of this year her attitude was the same, unless she was talking about herself, she just blatantly rude and started off into the distance. Or would cut into the conversation.
I have discussed this with my cousin as I am planning my baby shower and don't know if I should even invite her. If I don't it will cause trouble with the group of us, but if I do, being as blatantly rude as she has been will annoy the @#$% out of me.
My cousin has noticed that if she talks about her wee one, she switches off, and has said to me, she thinks she finds it hard to be happy for us all when she is feeling miserable and lonely.
But the way I see it is that she is 34, has a 12 year old son who lives with his father and has had a few abortions (not so long ago) for what ever reason its her choice but its not that she CAN'T have children and if she can't be happy for her friends, she is not a good friend at all!
I just feel sad that it has turned to this, sounds all very high school when we are in fact almost 30!!!
Phew sorry this is sooooo long, but would you invite her or just leave it knowing @#%% will hit the fan if you don't?
aaaaarghhh
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Henna79
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 4:30pm |
What would upset you more? Dealing with the fallout of not inviting her or being upset if she ruins your shower for you? I know someone who sounds similar to your friend and I end up including her in things and often being upset by her behavior so I guess you have to decide which is easier to deal with. Hope it all goes well for you
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 4:31pm |
Are you worried about possibly losing her as a friend? If you are not worried then don't invite her if that is what you want to do. If you want to try one more time to be friends then invite her.
To me it sounds like she is jealous and as your cousin said is finding it hard to be happy for you all. It does remind me of high school though!
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 5:03pm |
Maybe she won't have enough petrol to come to your baby shower anyway . If she doesn't have any contact with you, or hasn't accepted any invite from you to catch up, then I wouldn't bother about inviting her to your shower. It's your shower for your baby and the fact that she hasn't been interested at all about your pregnancy nor even congratulated you, shows she isn't a true friend.
I hope you have a lovely baby shower and get some really nice things!
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 5:23pm |
at least you can drink again!! OMG. In some situations you do need to look on the bright side...but in this case - that is sooo insensitive.
Like others have said....she sounds a little too self involved and unhappy with life to be a good friend right now. I would not be inviting her.
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 5:38pm |
sounds like one of my old friends, if i was in your position and still wanted her as a friend id casually send her a text or invite and just see if she turns up or not
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 6:10pm |
Yeah sounds hell jealous to me. I don't think you should have her there if you think she'll ruin your shower but I guess it depends on how great the fall out would be afterwards.
And lol at "spermzilla"
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 8:30pm |
I wouldn't invite her on the basis that you and she just wouldn't enjoy yourselves anyway! Something sounds screwy actually, she reminds me of my sister who happily babysat our eldest girls while I was birthing #4 but declined to come to the hospital with the girls to see her.... said it just wasn't her thing. She's always kinda said that babies aren't her thing but sometimes I wonder if she doesn't know what to make of her feelings since her DH was hard to convince to have children and now that they have tried (for 4yrs) they haven't been able to conceive
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 9:26pm |
From what you said I think that she might be very desperate to have a baby but due to circumstances can't right now - as you said her bf didn't want to and I assume she either doesn't have a current bf or the new one doesn't want to as well.
Wanting a baby but not being able to can do very strange things to people and it might be extrememly hard on her to be around people who have babies. Maybe her way of coping is to focus on other stuff in her life.
I'm not saying this is the only reason but it seems things changed when you and your friend got pregnant. Why don't you ask her - straight out - if this is the problem. If she is a good friend then she won't be upset by you telling her how her behaviour is making you feel especially if you ask if it's because of the baby thing. If she gets really upset by you talking to her about it and cuts off any more contact then you are no worse off.
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 10:16pm |
Gosh, she sounds like my old high school friend  In fact, I decided NOT to invite her to my baby shower for the same reasons you dont want to invite your friend.
Guess what happened? She turned up anyway  She gave me a $2 shop gift and invited everyone outside to join her for a bit of naughty stuff. I was so upset I ended up going home early and bursting into tears
I wouldnt invite her, she doesnt sound like a friend worth having really.
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Posted: 25 March 2009 at 9:28am |
Thanks girls, I really cant be bothered with the attitude and yeah hopefully she doesnt have the petrol haha...
Her want for baby so badly has changed her personality, but when she fell pregnant she chose not to have them as it didn't suit (it wasn't too long ago)... so it might just be me, but I don't understand the whole cold shoulder and am taking very personal probably bit too much, and yeah she might just even turn up anyway with her $2 shop gift (shes good like that also haha)
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Posted: 26 March 2009 at 11:35am |
Maybe because of the abortions she feels guilty when talking about and hearing about other people's babies and that combined with desperately wanting a baby now probably makes her feel like crap. It was definitely insensitive of her to make those comments after your miscarriage but I'm guessing that she's acting the way she is as a way to guard her own feelings as speaking from experience TTC when everyone else gets pregnant at the drop of the hat is hard.
In saying that, it does sound like you've tried quite a lot and it's your baby shower and it wouldn't be fair to have it ruined - and she sounds like she takes things way too far.
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Posted: 26 March 2009 at 12:18pm |
I agreewith the other advice, if there is a chance she is going to upset you then I wouldn't invite her.
I think its not just that you are having a baby that is making her like this but the whole package, i.e. a family, loving partner, good relationship and a baby. I know as a friend you want her to be able to rise above how she feels and be happy for you but she doesn't sound like she is in a good head space at the moment and hopefully things will change for her and she will go back to how she was.
Enjoy your baby shower!
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Posted: 26 March 2009 at 3:27pm |
Orca1 wrote:
I think its not just that you are having a baby that is making her like this but the whole package, i.e. a family, loving partner, good relationship and a baby. I know as a friend you want her to be able to rise above how she feels and be happy for you but she doesn't sound like she is in a good head space at the moment and hopefully things will change for her and she will go back to how she was. |
Think you hit the nail on the head right there! thats exactly it, I think she has been more distant to me as I was the last remaining single girl as well...
But I have just heard from our other friends and they are unsure whether to go to her birthday which is a '21st' again party next week (as she was pregnant on her actual 21st) because they are finding her high maintenance as a friend right now. If its not about her, she doens't want to know :(
I was taking it personally but think she just needs some time and realise who brings her up and who and what keeps her bringing her down.
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Posted: 27 March 2009 at 11:15am |
It sounds like she's desperate for a baby, running out of time, and jealous as hell of you. To make things worse she's had these abortions and her only child doesn't live with her. This is probably making her feel either guilty or dissapointed with how life is turning out. If it was me I'd back off for awhile. Don't let someone make you feel bad because their life isn't working out so well.
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Posted: 28 March 2009 at 9:09am |
Goodness I could have written that myself nearly 18 months ago!
I had (still have) a GF who was... erm, strange. She is strangely straight up and critical of other situations that are not her own. For instance.
Olivia doesn't have a restrictive diet at all but her DD does (no sweet things at all, ever) and she projects that upon me "I would never feed DD that!" or the one that hurt "Me and DP will never get married because of how you and your DH's relationship is"
When I got pregnant in June 07, I told her and she was "No you're not" and when I finally showed her the test she was like "Oh... ok". Then I had a MMC (like yourself) at 9 weeks and her response was "Oh well, at least you know you can get pregnant"  No consoling and I had been there for her when she'd had a MC and ectopic so I felt awful. THEN she got pregnant 6 months to the day after my MMC and she arrived in a puff of wind at my place looking for a congrats (which I gave from my sick bed as cheery as I could) and I was  WTF is up with that?
As time progressed in her pregnancy, she started saying more and more hurtful things and acting like she was desperate to be the better in the situation (like she needed to be). It finally culminated at the beginning of this year at a friends birthday party and she was making snipes about me to my neighbour who approached the both of us and asked what was going on.
Well I was at a loss, by the beginning of this year I had figured out that since the birth of Olivia I had been struggling with anxiety and was now well medicated (yahoo!). But the neighbour had told me that pre meds I had been acting a little like my friend (which I was surprised about but I'm open to that) but had since been better and maybe I should see that (which I do). I may have said stuff to aggravate her and such forth I watch my tongue.
GF also had a talking to I assume as she is a lot nicer. I now listen to what she has to say, feel hurt if she is being hurtful and tell her. "There is no need to be like that". Honesty can go a long way.
As for her previous behaviour, I can only assume that it was envy. I don't think she wanted to believe I would ever be a mother of 2 before her (and I wasn't and still aren't). Nor do I think that she thought that relationships are more than a piece of paper - I don't think she still does but I have my head on straight now.
Bottom line.
You don't have to take sh*t from anyone, be accountable for your own self.
As for your future stuff, you need to sort it out. If she is going to be as she is then you need to talk to her, before it gets out of control and she wrecks a special occasion for you.
Best of luck!
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