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Bizzy 
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 Posted: 28 August 2007 at 5:37pm |
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nowhere did i say breastfeeding was better even if tainted with harmful drugs - in some cases like drugs or disease etc being possibly passed to baby then formula is a good replacement.
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Two Blondinis
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Posted: 28 August 2007 at 5:43pm |
hmm I have to disagree with you too, I think where the mother is so unhappy/stressed etc about BFing and feels that the pressure to BF is affecting her ability to care for her baby then formula feeding is better for all concerned.
BUT - there really is no right or wrong answer here and I still think Renee you did the right thing for you and Sam 
Here's the link to the log on page of that website NZ Bottle Babies
It's an MSN group that you have to apply to join but the lady who runs it is really lovely and they are all extremely supportive over there and they don't just talk about formula 
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Mikaela
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Posted: 28 August 2007 at 5:44pm |
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I'm a breastfeeding mum, but I absolutely agree that if the mum is unhappy breastfeeding her baby then it's far better to switch to formula. Millions of healthy babies have been raised on formula - surely it's better to have a formula fed baby than an unhappy, resentful mum!
A good friend of mine has been bottle feeding her baby since he was 5 weeks old (he's now 9 months) and a happier, healthier baby and a more loving mum you will never see.
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mamanee
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Posted: 28 August 2007 at 5:59pm |
 GandT wrote:
nowhere did i say breastfeeding was better even if tainted with harmful drugs - in some cases like drugs or disease etc being possibly passed to baby then formula is a good replacement. |
Deb you are right, breast is best, I meant it as in 'formula feeding can be better for the mother than breastfeeding' meaning more emotionally than health wise for the baby. I didn't really explain that very well. I wholeheartedly agree that breast milk from a healthy mother is better for baby than formula.
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my2angels
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Posted: 28 August 2007 at 6:06pm |
GandT wrote:
nowhere did i say breastfeeding was better even if tainted with harmful drugs - in some cases like drugs or disease etc being possibly passed to baby then formula is a good replacement. |
Well I kind of took it as you did because you said "in any cases" which is the part I disagreed with.
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Bizzy
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Posted: 28 August 2007 at 6:11pm |
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i'm sorry renee i didnt mean to rain on your thread. You were sharing some very relevant and important information that just isnt discussed enough. Obviously this is a topice that is close to some peoples hearts and maybe in this instance i should have just shut my keyboard.
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Posted: 28 August 2007 at 8:59pm |
GandT wrote:
neeandsam wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I know that breast is best, but in some cases formula is better. |
i disagree that formula is better (in any cases) maybe its as good as or almost as good as but never better.
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Tsk, tsk love, you're forgetting about my three pesky babies that couldn't tolerate breastmilk at all 
On a more serious note (just in case anyone couldn't tell that my tongue was firmly in my cheek with that last statement), we are working with the Ministry of Health at getting some up to date, relevant and useful information on bottle feeding so that those who choose to bottle feed, for whatever reason, have access to quality info. So bear with me, but also bear in mind that they are a govt. department and as such, not given to doing things in a timely manner.
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Two Blondinis
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Posted: 29 August 2007 at 9:06am |
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That's awesome news Emma and long overdue too!
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Andie
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Posted: 29 August 2007 at 5:17pm |
Yesssssss!!!!! I'd love to see info being given to new mums on how to safely and appropriately bottle feed - for now you have to go to the formula companies for ANY information, so of course, it's all tied in with promoting their own products - not the most balanced way to get info.
my 2 cents worth... breast is not always best. The 'breast is best' promotions are great, and thanks to that policy most NZ-born babies get all the goodness of breastmilk when they need it, but there's always exceptions to the rule, and no-one should be made to feel less for being one of those exceptions. I'm grateful to Renee for writing what she did in this topic. Rock on, girl!!
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Posted: 29 August 2007 at 9:14pm |
You know I think as mommies we beat ourselves up too much. We try to compare (even if we say we dont). We are so scared our child misses out to the next child and dont have the best start ect. What if they dont have enough tummy time ect. We really are a bad lot arent we?
I personally think in MOST cases that breastmilk is better than formula. But if mommy aint happy then nobody is going to be happy and that will just negatively affect baby and mommy. I think the most important thing for a mom is to do what is right for HER, her baby and her family. And nobody but her (and yeah sometimes a bit of help from the dad ) can decide what that is for them.
I also think it will be great to have more info on bottle feeding as well. Afterall it is your choice and you should be able to get all the info you need to make the best choice for your child.
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