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DJKaf 
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Posted: 13 January 2014 at 2:53pm |
Has anyone used Belly Armor? http://www.bellyarmor.com Im thinking of getting a blanket so I have it ready from the get go. Im paranoid about radiation and all those things. Anyone used it? Thought about radiation? Used something different?
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binklemouse
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Posted: 13 January 2014 at 3:03pm |
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Interesting!
I pretty much spend all evening with my laptop on my lap and occasionally wonder if that's doing anything to my insides...
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avidkeo
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Posted: 13 January 2014 at 3:23pm |
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I'm a radiographer..... so am around radiation all day, and am not worried in the slightest! (though to be fair we do take precautions!)
Personally, nah, don't buy it! think its a load of crap. You get more radiation sitting in the sun for 20 minutes than you do from a chest x-ray. Once the radiation has entered your body, it bounces around, so the only way to protect you 100% is to wear head to toe lead!
Also depending on where you live you can have higher levels of background radiation than other places.
To put things into perspective, bananas are slightly radioactive!!!!
I really think its scaremongering to get you to buy something you don't actually need!!!
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DJKaf
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Posted: 13 January 2014 at 3:26pm |
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@avidkeo what are your thoughts on long haul flying. When I flew we were only allowed to do a certain number of flights a year over the north pole due to radiation and as soon as you test positive weren't allowed to fly because of the radiation. I had intended to not fly at all when preg. (I'm not crew anymore) But no holidays either.
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Posted: 13 January 2014 at 3:26pm |
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Oh an of course Im not intending on doing any ultrasounds
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Posted: 14 January 2014 at 2:19pm |
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Oh an of course Im not intending on doing any ultrasounds |
why no ultrasounds???? Nothing wrong with ultrasound! I know there is one "study" floating around that supposedly links US to autism, but I have read that and its a really bad study, and draws really really bad conclusions. Yeah you get a lot of radiation flying so if you fly a lot, yeah you may want to think about limiting, I gather you were a pilot at the time?
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Posted: 15 January 2014 at 8:20pm |
@avidkeo Ive seen a few studies on the dangers of ultrasounds. So weather or not the study is the best I think unless it becomes medically necessary theres no need. So as long as I have a midwife well trained in palpation and its a normal pregnancy I see no reason to sneak a peek in there. I think there are so many unknowns. And if it can be avoided why not. http://www.glorialemay.com/blog/?cat=22 Its interesting the radiation with flying (I don't fly anymore and wouldn't fly long haul when preg) but there are a lot of airlines that allow their crew to fly while pregnant. It amazes me that the crew do. I knew a girl that flew right up to her due date! Amazing not just the radiation, but the constant pressurisation and depressurisation of the aircraft can stimulate labour. I was cabin crew, not a pilot, I was based in Dubai so we did lots of long haul over the North Pole going to the States and thats apparently the worst routing. |
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Posted: 15 January 2014 at 10:03pm |
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I agree with avid - there is no evidence to support any danger from ultrasounds.
I see the point you are making djkaf about there being many unknowns etc but I think that medically necessary is difficult to define. Many pregnancies progress apparently very normally but there is a chance (albeit) small of a congenital abnormality with baby that is really handy to know about.
I can understand the argument that the nuchal scan is unnecessary. I agree that unless you would terminate a pregnancy or use the information in another way to prepare yourself mentally there is no medical benefit to the 12 week scan. (although I think you could argue it the other way as well)
However the 20week anatomy scan is areally useful scan in all pregnant woman. Normally progressing pregnancies too!! If for example a heart defect is picked up it would allow doctors to prepare for the birth in much more detail and enable them to help your baby at birth. Whereas if you didn't know there is a chance that doctors who aren't experienced with neonatal resuscitations would be around especially if you are not in a major city. There are many other medical diagnoses that can be made at the 20week scan that would change how the delivery might be monitored or the location you would be advised to birth at for the sake of the baby.
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Posted: 17 January 2014 at 11:57am |
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Thank you NzVeggie - I completely agree with all of your points there! I work with radiation on a daily basis, and think the benefits very much outweigh the risks. I do agree sometimes ultrasound is unnecessary but I personally think it is better to have it than not for the reasons NzVeggie outlines. However to each his (or her) own.
The few studies I have seen on Ultrasound - and this is something I am very much interested in - have all been vague, and with worst practice. The one I was referring to was the test done on mice, and the researchers concluded that there may be a connection - but they way they performed the study showed that it was NOT a cumulative effect - the effect was only noted if the ultrasound was used as the cells were migrating. Also there was no effect at all when the probe was help in place for less than 30 minutes - on otherwords the probe had to be held in the EXACT spot for 30 minutes or more before tissue was effected.
There are known effects of ultrasound - and sonographers are very very highly trained in these effects. No sonographer would EVER leave a probe in the same spot for longer than was necessary and would NEVER leave a probe on the same spot for 30 minutes - most of the time the total scan time is less than 10 minutes, and the probe is constantly moving around.
I don't know enough about radiation and flying but I thought this chart might interest you - it puts radiation into perspective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Xkcd_radiation_chart.png
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