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peanut butter
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Posted: 29 January 2008 at 8:11pm |
Itchy feet, you have me interested now. How do you accrue annual leave when you arent working?
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kebakat
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Posted: 29 January 2008 at 8:21pm |
I was told that while on extended maternity leave you accure leave technically but it's not worth anything as you haven't worked during that time. So essentially it's like being able to take unpaid leave.
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ItchyFeet
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Posted: 29 January 2008 at 8:37pm |
Stacey, you're right. You continue to accrue leave, but the value is based on your previous 52 weeks annual earnings. Therefore, if you come back to work after 52 weeks, you will have accrued 20 days but at zero value as you haven't been earning in that time. If you go back earlier, then you won't have accrued as many days, but it will have some value attached.
This is one of the reasons I believe you are supposed to be paid out on your annual leave balance as you go on parental leave. Otherwise the built-up value of your leave will just continue to diminish even though you still retain the number of days at the time of going on leave. I think also if you're made redundant during extended leave, the amount of holidays you accrue at whatever the average 52 week value is should also be paid out to you.
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kebakat
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Posted: 29 January 2008 at 8:40pm |
My annual leave balance wasn't paid out to me, simply because it will be waiting for me when I "return" - I'm not actually going to return so it will be paid out to me when I resign. I got a letter from my job last week stating how much leave I have owing (as everyone gets told at this time of year and since I'm not there they sent it to me). I've got 25 days annual leave owing. 8 of which I will get paid out for, the rest are worth $0
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busymum
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Posted: 29 January 2008 at 9:23pm |
You have some good advice/info on here. I would leave also, you don't know how long TTC will take and even then there's probably a 9m wait before the baby. Most people seem to work 6-8 mos of their pregnancy anyway.
The PPL is not very much, similar to a dole payment, so if I were you in prep for conceiving I would be reviewing the family budget to see what can be trimmed etc. You don't have to live completely frugal but it's not a bad exercise to do anyway.
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yummymummy
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 7:25am |
Would you def leave if you were not TTC?
If yes, then I'd go for it as TTC may take months and then you'll probably work until your are 6-7 months preggers at least.
If in doubt, I'd stay as you don't know how long it will take to find a new job and how good that new job will be anyways. Also strating new job could be quite demanding if you are newly pregnant with morning sickness etc
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Parki
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 8:46am |
Wow, there is so much info that I had no idea about!
Thanks so much! You ladies are FULL of useful info
I agree, that we don't know how long TTC will take so would probably be best to start a new job.
But then I think about (what yummymummy mentioned)
if I was to start a new job and then got pregnant and was having to have days off due to sickness or any possible issues that may arise, I would feel quite dishonest to the company for letting them hire me with the intention of leaving at some point in the (hopefully) near future and then taking days off all the time!
Another problem I have is I work in an office environment at the moment and this is my main problem. I don't want to work in an office, I want to be outside, being active and doing something I love that excites me. I have decided that I will not work in another office because my boredom kicks in after about a month, its just not for me.
BUT I think this would probably be the best sort of job to have whilst pregnant, especially towards the later stages?
So my point is (believe me, there is one!) that is there any point in leaving an office job now to find a job I love to just leave soonish after and have no intention of returning?
Or best to stick out this boring job, take PPL and then resign. Stay home with our baby for maybe one - two years and then look into changing career paths?
Its not so much all about the money but more about when to 'start' a new 'career' as such!?
Sorry, I hope this is making sense...
And thanks again for your replies
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kebakat
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 9:08am |
Well I had an office job for my pregnancy and it was total ass. I would have prefered to be up and active. Towards the end I was more the errand girl, someone had something they needed taking somewhere I went and did that so I didn't have to be stuck on a chair all day.
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cuppatea
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 5:12pm |
I left an office job to go "back on my tool" (i'm an electrician) and I think that I would have worked longer had I have still been in the office job, although may have got uncomfy sitting in a chair all day. But I did find it hard to be on my feet for 8 hours a day and I only worked 3 days a week (but would then spend my days off recovering from work). I also ended up taking my annual leave and finishing work at 32 weeks cos I got sciatic nerve pain and was in agony plus had 1 1/4 commute and was worried about going into labour half way between Christchurch and Ashburton. I also struggled with lifting stuff and would have to constantly ask someone for help, couldn't spend much time bent over or working on the floor etc (which are all things you would have to take into account if doing an outdoors/manual labour type of job)
However I do not regret changing jobs because even though it may have been physically harder and more tiring I didn't have to put up with an arse of a boss working 50 hours a week in a job I hated. Instead I worked 24-30 hours in a job I didn't mind with a boss that was great and understanding throughout the whole of my pregnancy (and now lets me work casually from home).
I think personally if it was me I would change jobs now, you don't know how long it is going to take to get pregnant and you can always stop trying now find a new job and then start trying again once you have been there for a few months. I also don't think it is dishonest as we never know what is going to happen, you could be there 5 years before you get pg or it could be 5 days
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 6:50pm |
Is there some kind of training or study you could do towards what you want to do while still in your current office job? Then when bubs comes along you could be on your way to a job doing something you prefer.
You'd be surprised at how accommodating employers can be, I've only been at my work for 2 months and I think they all expect me to be pregnant within a year of our wedding day and to come back after 1 years maternity leave.
You don't have to disclose anything about TTC to a prospective employer.
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Posted: 31 January 2008 at 5:31am |
I have wrestled with this one for about a year now.
I trained to do something related but different to what i do now, applied for a couple of jobs, then decided to TTC so stopped applying. Got pregnant, then lost bubs at 14 weeks, so now I'm contemplating again.
On the plus side i have some good friends here, been here for about 14 years (with one break elsewhere), dont mind the work too much, get paid well. Down side I want to do what I've been training to do and there are some people at work who really P--- me off, and would like to move on.
I think at the moment staying will win as I suspect I will get pregnant again fairly quickly when we are able to try.
...but YEP it is a tough one. Write down your pros and cons and see how they weigh up. Maybe there is something you can do at your current place that will keep you interested?
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Posted: 01 February 2008 at 3:52pm |
I know i was looking at if i should start a new job when TTC, i decided that life is to short to not do something based on what if's. I have been with my new job a few months now and still TTC.
I am glad I have changed jobs, because I am alot happier, which means less stress when TTC.
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Posted: 03 February 2008 at 7:13am |
lol I just went for a job interview for this fantastic job last week and now have a BFP after three years. I guess I won't be taking that job!
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Posted: 04 February 2008 at 11:54am |
Congrats KiwiNZ,
Yeah, would have been nice to get the new job-but then again-you wont be long in this current one and you get to go on maternity leave and enjoy the new bundle
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