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fattartsrock
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Posted: 29 May 2011 at 2:22pm |
Lol Jules I also have a white picket fence too!!! Well, it is cream, but yeah, ha ha.
I think my upbrining is why I didn't really want to have kids in the first place.
I think our upbringings can shape us good or bad...for example one brother of mine lives the same way as Mum and Dad did..always a victim, the world owes them something and keep having kids they can't afford cos the GVT props them up. Hates "rich people" (like me cos I have a later model car that is registered, warrented and insured and I wear gold jewellery...lol yeah really rich) yet another brother and I have worked our butts off to distance ourselves as far as poss from our upbringing...
I appreciate the sharing!
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Plushie
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Posted: 29 May 2011 at 2:25pm |
Hopes that sounds like a logistical nightmare for your parents, good on you for understanding though!
And Fattarts GO YOU for getting ahead :)
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HoneybunsMa
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Posted: 29 May 2011 at 3:34pm |
I believe that our upbringings definitely shape us. My mother for example came from an abusive family before her mum and dad split and both my parents weren't well off in their families because of that they have always given us what they can and even as adults would help us out if needed (this will change now that dads insurance is running out this year and its driving me mad that they have known for 2years but nothing has been put in place sorry OT) and because of the violence mum has been ultra caring, and loving, always cuddling and hugging us. It drives me crazy.
I think DP grew up struggling and in a violent household (as many island families do, well any family really) and because of that he is so generous just like his father it annoys me! He knows where I stand on raising a hand to a child though so that one doesn't bother me, as if he did I would kick him out and make sure his family was aware of the reason.
I do have a bit of a me mentality and I'll admit that, probably partly because as kids we never really had anything that was just "mine" I would have more then my brothers did as I was the only girl but most of the time we had to share everything!
I have a reasonably low self esteem because of the way my brothers picked on me as kids and how my older brother always seemed to be "the man" growing up I never understood that as he was always a right royal pain in the butt!
Oh and I HATE being left out of things because I was the girl I wasn't included in my brothers games, and things so was always left out and that is part of the low self confidence.
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Posted: 29 May 2011 at 8:49pm |
This thread is very interesting - I was just thinking the other day that I have started sounding a lot like my Mum. I had a good childhood and certainly didn't go without but both my parents suffered from mental health issues (Dad with depression and Mum with an anxiety disorder) at various times and things that happened round those times have definitely scarred me a bit. I am very aware of the things that I hated from my childhood (especially the yelling from my Dad - he was never violent apart from the odd smack but man he could be one scary man when he yelled!) and I try really hard to change the way I react to certain situations.
Some of the things I did like though - I always felt loved even though my Mum is not a touchy feely person and my Dad would always come in last thing at night before he went to bed and check if we were ok. Mum worked on Saturdays and Dad was left to ferry all 3 of us in different directions to Saturday morning sport (one to soccer, one to hockey and one to ballet). It must have been hard for him and he did forget to come back and pick me up a couple of times but I appreciate how much effort he put in now. No matter how skint we were my Mum always saved up so we could have a nice outing every school holidays. I clearly remember Mum going down to the school repeatedly trying to help me out when I was getting bullied, she noticed and she cared and she tried to sort it out and I appreciate that.
I guess that the person we are now is a product of genetics and the way we have been brought up. One of the things that my ex husband and I could never get past is the massive difference in our upbringings - he grew up poor from the "wrong side of the tracks" and got in to a lot of trouble as a kid and I had much more of a white bread middle class childhood. Not to say we didn't agree but we had such different frames of reference it was hard to see where each other was coming from sometimes.
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millemama
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Posted: 30 May 2011 at 12:10pm |
I have read thru all of this thread this morning, been emotional thru some of it too - pregnancy hormones will do that! But have come to the conclusion that you are not shaped by your childhood, you are inspired, bullied, sickened and enlightened by them and in the case of those of you with pretty horrible ones, they haven't made you what you are today, sure you have issues that stem from that childhood and even the good ones get that, but YOU are what makes YOU. YOU have shaped who YOU are today and YOU can all be bloody proud of the people YOU have become. Well done.
I, on the other hand always compare myself to my mum and want be as good as she was, not sure if its really possible. She was a beautiful soul and I was priveleged to have her and dad as parents. I am slowly coming to realise that I don't need to be exactly like her as I am my own person with my own faults but think I'm doing OK most of the time and she would be proud.
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Posted: 30 May 2011 at 12:26pm |
I am a big believer in nature over nurture because of how completely different I am from my brother. We had a fantastic upbringing, mum and dad never argued, we were both disciplined the same, were low-middle income, never wanted for anything. But my brother has been in trouble ever since I can remember, he has never been able to hold down a job, never has any money, he is always unhappy, always with a different girlfriend - he has 4 kids to 3 different women who he barely sees and now a step-son as well, covered in tats, basically a bit of a no-hoper. Whereas I went to university, have a great career, have been with the same great guy for 10 years, high income, very happy. When people find out who my brother is they can't believe it, that's how bad he is (not saying I'm perfect!)
It just goes to show you can parent two children the same and they can turn out completely different through no fault of your own. I always feel bad for mum and dad because they think my brother turned out the way he is because of something they did/didn't do. It worries me that you can be the best parent in the world but end up with a child that you don't even recognise.
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Posted: 30 May 2011 at 1:17pm |
When it comes to the nature/nuture debate, I'm a firm believer that both play a big role. You're naturally going to have a certain temperment, and how you react to your parents upbringing might be completely different to how another person would. It doesn't mean the upbringing doesn't affect you both - just that it affects you in different ways. For example, having fairly strict parents might cause one child to grow up a very rigid and disciplined person, and another to rebel and go totally the other way.
Me and my sister were excellent examples of reacting to the same parenting different ways. I temded to be (and I regret it!) very mouthy and openly rebellious in my teenage years (particularly about 15/16). There'd be yelling and tears and it was all very unpleasant. My sister, on the other hand, was a comparative angel - but when she reached 18/19, she'd just do things Mum and Dad would have hated behind their backs (they were more on to it than she knew, of course, but still). By the time I was 18 or so I'd pretty much calmed down and was getting on great with Mum and Dad. We both ended up (hopefully!) decentish people - but we are very different even now!
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Posted: 01 June 2011 at 10:08pm |
I was very lucky to grow up in a big supportive family with lots of contact with aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents. Mum ran a good household and we had a big house on a big section, home baking, camping holidays and a boat for fishing and sailing. We grew up with stablility and security but also being encouraged to take risks and be adventurous.
Because I go out to work, instead of being a SAHM I do things differently in terms of dinner in front of TV, quick easy meals, very little home grown food etc. That might be a sign of the times though.
I find myself instilling a lot of the same values that my parents instilled into me.
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