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ah ok ... gosh how frustrating for you:(
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What about trying the HA formula just in case he does have a bit of an allergy? It is partial hydrolised so still has some of the milk protein but is a bit easier on their tums than the regular formula. Have they tested for lactose intolerance? Karicare also has a lactose free formula available at supermarket now...might be a thought?
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Yeah the lactose could be something to look into as that is an entirely different problem to being allergic to the protein, so being on Neocate wouldn't fix it.

Really hope you get some answers soon, but I think you are coping incredible well considering all you have been through

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Saffron, have already tried the HA formula as well. Didn't seem to make much difference. Perhaps a lactose free one is another I could give a go? But I am wary of changing formula again as we have already done so quite a few times.

Does Neocate have lactose in it? I didn't know that.

How do you test for Lactose Intolerance? Jackson has had RAST testing, but all came back negative. Would that have covered Lactose Intolerance? I guess I should do some more reading. From what I understand, LI is pretty rare, which is why I haven't given it a heap of thought.

Sometimes I don't feel like I am coping well. I had a MASSIVE cry yesterday after a big feeding fuss and sometimes I just want to give up. But there is no giving up in this situation. I am just PRAYING that he comes right on solids, as I can't imagine having to go through all this drama ongoing.
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Aww Laurie you are doing so well, it is so hard to battle constantly to nourish them only for it to end up hurting them. You can cry as much as you need to, its better to let it out than to hold all that tension inside and get overwhelmed by it. I know it is no consolation but was talking to my doctor yesterday about Isobelle's reflux and he said that most babies seem to turn a corner around 7 months and start to come right.
To be honest I don't know a lot about LI was going to look on cryingoverspiltmilk tonight. I can understand not wanting to change formulas again, such a drama especially if you don't get any results. If you think you might give it a go though try ringing Karicare and see if they might send you a sample so that you don't have to buy a whole tin. They did that for me when I weaned Dominic to formula.
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Hi Laurie,
Been looking into Lactose intolerance or rather Lactase deficiency there is one type that causes rapid gastric emptying. Anyway here's the link
Worth a looky.
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I'm not 100% sure about the neocate but I would be surprised if it was lactose free as lactose is a sugar and has nothing to do with the protein.

Lactose intolerance is a deficiency in the enzyme needed to break down lactose, whereas milk protein allergy is where the bodies immune system actually attacks the protein. That's why allergies can be skin prick tested for but intolerances can't.

When I read up on some stuff as well I found that there is more lactose in breastmilk than cows milk (just some useless info for you).

That's interesting Saffron as Spencer's spilling pretty much stopped at 7 months, and it was quick as well, we went from having to take changes of clothes and blankets to put down at other's people houses cos he was spewing pretty much all day long to him rarely puking at all in a matter of a week or two.

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