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Topic: Mental Health Posted: 02 July 2009 at 5:56pm |
Hey everyone, I know there is a forum for antinatal depression but I have come to the conclusion that there are lots of people out there who have a mental health issue of one sort or another. I know it is about 1 in 4 people suffer from some kind of mental health problem in their life but the thing that gets me is that it is still kind of hidden away ya know...and maybe it would be beneficial to people if we talked about it more.
I have never suffered from depression but my partner does -he has suffered since he was a teenager and only accepted it last year. His has no reason for it, he just gets depressed. I also have several close friends who have suffered from depression in one way or another, whether for a reason or just no reason.
Anyway, my partner went to couples counselling with me which is where he was basically told he was depressed and it was only coz I told him he had to come with me or it was over. It still took another three months before he actually sought medical help and he now takes drugs. It actually took me about a year to realise his behaviour was nothing to do with me but his moods cycled up and down...when I clicked I was like ooooooh that makes sense!!
Anyway, thats my story and if anyone else wants to share theirs then that would be super cool. Also perhaps what people are doing to help their depression. DF is on antidepressents but also I try to encourage him to exercise and eat well and that also helps HEAPS. Sadly, I seem to be better at helping him eat well and forget that I am getting rounder
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 6:10pm |
My brother has just been (well I think he was diagnosed anyways) with Bipolar 2 which means that he is not at the extreme manic depressive end of bipolar at least. But yes its been a hard road, and its taken mum a long time to accept that he is just mentally ill. She has been blaming it and probably still blames it on pot smoking.
I don't think he is taking anything daily as it doesn't seem to help him but he is taking larazapan (sp) if he has a major up to bring him back down. His downs aren't very bad at all unlike manic bipolar.
So yes its been hard and trying to deal with it all when you are pregnant is NOT fun at all! The way I have gotten through it is just focusing on the little bubby that I will get to meet. Thats what I've been doing with a lot of things its been non stop with my family haha. Beside the point!
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 6:54pm |
I got depression 9 months after Janaya was born. I was "too far into motherhood" to be eligible for a placing with Maternal Mental Health, so I had to go to a place at the hospital daily for weeks
It was really awful and everyone there seemed so much more "depressed" than I was. I think a lot of them were schizophrenic and noone really spoke, some would rock and it was all rather scary for me (I was only 20 at the time)
Anyway, in the end I got so depressed I was suicidal, Dad ended up calling the team at the hospital and I was put in a respite home and was on "suicide watch" for several days. Dad took a month off work and took sole care of Janaya (bless him), DH (who was DP at the time) was told by all of his family that I was just pulling a big act and he moved out and went to live with them. HIs grandmother told him there was no such thing as postnatal depression.
To me, the antidepressants seemed to make me a lot worse, I would go crazy on them. I had counsilling, and started an art course and got a lot of happiness from that. I took myself off anti depressants and felt much better. I even enrolled in a bachelors degree and started making a life for myself.
I had the depo provera after Janaya was born and the doctors seemed to think that played a big part in the depression. Once it was out of my system things seemed to be much better.
I think when I had Janaya I just didnt realise how hard motherhood would be. I was really young and lost all of my friends once the novelty wore off for them. It really just hit me I think.
Thank goodness I has such a supportive family
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 7:23pm |
What a fantastic Dad you have
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 8:02pm |
We have quite a few of us in the family with it, including me - I was diagnosed with depression and acute anxiety around about 15/16 after going to counselling at the free youth clinic. Was truly a life saver for me! Funnily enough when I finally told my mum at 18 she said she'd known for ages as others in our family have it so she knew the signs. I also had AND and PND with Jack but haven't had any issues this time around.
My cousin is bipolar and has been in and out of institutions. She unfortunately self-medicates, apparently with heroine etc, and noone knows where she is most of the time (we haven't seen her in years).
My DH I think is currently depressed but he would never do anything about it after looking after me, he does see it as a weakness for a guy which makes it hard to talk to him about that sort of stuff. He had a bit of a breakdown recently and called me from overseas while over in Oz for 3 weeks to say he was leaving - it took a lot of talking/physically baracading him in the house/cuddles from me to get him to open up.
I really struggle with the anxiety side of things - it's one of the reasons I smoke when not pregnant as it forces me to take controlled breaths (weird huh). I work myself up to the point of hyperventilating and my heart pounds so fast that I feel like I'll faint. Unfortunately with everything going on for us in the last few months I've been living like that a lot, but the lovely doctor introduced me to my new best friend Valium who has helped me a lot
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 9:32pm |
My aspergers means I'm mentally fragile. I have obsessive compulsive disorder and have points in avoidant personality disorder, dependant personality disorder, and histrionic personality disorder. I struggle with feeling inadequate, I'm extremely sensitive to how others view me and I'm hypersensitive to rejection or criticism. I'm excruciatingly shy (you wouldn't pick that up talking to me though lol), I like rules and order and organisation.
Its really hard for my DP sometimes coz he doesn't fully understand everything and I don't think anybody could TBH I'm a complicated little lass. He really tries but it can be difficult when I'm unconciously being inflexible and trying to keep order and it just comes across like I'm being a controlfreak!! Its really hard for me going out and being social. I'm so sure people don't like me or they think I'm weird.
Alot of this stems from abuse from extended family growing up. I had particular cousins who were awful to me. They continually told me what a retard I was, how I could never fit in, and y'know anything and everything they could say to hurt me or knock my confidence.
Having a mental disorder can be crippling but all you need is one or two people who belive in you. I was lucky to have parents like that and I think their support and love has made the difference between being ruled my my head and only being affected by it.
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 10:10pm |
My DH suffered depression after a major life changing accident, we do question now if he had a depressive tendency due to family before the accident & it made it worse or was family making it harder for him afterwards IYKWIM.
One book I found brilliant, I think if I hadn't read it I would have left him. "Murray Deaker, Just an Opinion" It made me understand his depression & how he actually felt about me as there was a chapter written by Murray's wife in there & her experiences.
We have since discovered that DH's hypoglycemia also can give him depression symptoms & can turn into full blown depression if his diet is not managed. So again, what was the cause? Could it have been his diet around the time of his accident? Questions we can not answer.
Now we make an incredible team, I'm obviously the back bone to it all as I can see & hear when he's going off the rails. I do watch him very closely. This time around with bubs I can enjoy him more as our family life is extremely settled.
Interesting time of this thread.....5 days til the anniversary
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 10:30pm |
i have depression and severe anxiety disorder. I was diagnosed when i was in intermediate and have been on medication since then, however came off it after henry was born. I fully blame my mental weaknesses on being sexually abused. I was diagnosed because i started having seizures (or episodes) which were really freaky for anyone witnessing them. They looked like an epileptic seizure apparently and i was completely unresponsive. I have come to my own conclusion that its my minds way of protecting me from getting too anxious in a way.
It has been especially difficult for my family and friends. I have attempted suicide on numerous occasions and have often refused to see people etc. My family is amazing - especially my mum - i now realise all she did for me. I still cant believe that my dh stayed with me (i met him at 15years old and within a month of us going out was hospitalised for an overdose) he really trully amazes me.
Thankfully i am doing alot better now and i think it is all to do with hope. When things were really bad i didnt have hope - couldnt see that tomorrow might be better or that something might change. I still have really bad days where i cant leave the house (or my bed sometimes) and i completly issolate myself from everyone but now i have hope. I know that things cant stay bad forever.
My son is the best thing in my life. I have wanted a baby ever since i was 14 (not sure why just felt it so strongly). So when i got pregnant at 17 as terrified as i was its one of the rare times i can remember that i was truly happy.
Sorry that post went way longer than i thought it would. Felt really good to get it out though. I am happy to talk to anyone who wants to talk or has been through something similar.
oh and except for the last 10months i was on medication and twice weekly counselling. Neither really worked on their own but both together seemed to keep me stable.
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 7:30am |
Mental illnesses are more common than you think, aren't they? DH has suffered from depression - he had a really bad period when he was in his late teens, and was also really, really skinny at this time - I'm not sure if he would have fit the diagnosis of anorexic, but he looked dreadful. Thankfully, he pulled out of that. He's had bad patches since, but has been doing really well for the last five or so years. He's still really hard on himself, but not to the point where it's taking over his life like it used to.
When I married him, I knew that these kind of problems have a habit of popping back up. I'm really pleased he's done so well for so long, and really hope thing stay how they are, but if they don't, we'll cope. I do think I'm good for him - I know you can't fix a persons problems, but I think our realtionship helps.
The funny thing is, he's so hard on himself, but in reality, he's such a wonderful person. He's good-looking (I'm biased, but I think that's also the public concensus!), smart and athletic (He actually is all three - did I get lucky or what  ). He's spent his whole time at Uni believing that his grades have just been luck, and that people are going to figure out he's not really that bright (this is year after year of A+ grades, too!) Getting an A+ for his Masters thesis was a bit of a turning point, I think - he's started to realise that he's doing a pretty good job (yay).
Excercise is really good for him, too. He's always been really into running, tramping and sport, and when he lets these tail off, he tends to get down easier.
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 12:31pm |
Wow, this is great. Thanks for sharing everyone, it is good to hear from people who have depression and those who have someone close.
I always like the depression ad on tv in NZ where the wife of that fellow says that there have been some really bad times but it is great to see him pull through and come out the other side and I always think that about DF. So any of you people who are depressed, I am sure there are people who feel that way about you too
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 2:42pm |
Angel4 did you ever get a diagnosis for the seizures?? I started fitting when I was pregnant with Jake - almost like the additional stress just tipped me over the edge I'd been teetering on. I now fit whenever my stress levels get too high or if someone touches me and I'm not expecting it, or moves their body in a way I associate with violence. I got all the scans and stuff and in the end they said it was psychological. I have actually found that because I now start fitting at a certain point I'm more inclined to stay even. Maybe its coz, like with Aliasmum and DH, it shows my family and DP clearly that I'm getting to the end of things were as beforehand they couldn't tell. Now they immediately step in and sort things out.
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 9:12pm |
My experiences with depression in no way compare to the previous stories, but I thought I’d share to show the spectrum of depression.
My seriously depressive periods (where I haven’t been able to function) are usually triggered by something – leaving home, having a long distance relationship, moving overseas. But making changes to my life helped fight the depression.
But as well as those really black periods, depression is always the ‘black dog’ yapping at my door. I have days where I’m really sad and there’s no cause. Then I feel guilty for not getting much done around the house and I get so angry with myself that I can’t just ‘snap out of it’. Because I have nothing to be sad about; I have what should be a really happy life.
I have thought about getting some treatment for it but it’s not really that bad – mostly I just try to push on through because it’s more than likely that tomorrow will be better.
There are definitely mental health issues in my family, going back to my great grandfather at least and continuing down through. My mother and both sisters (one especially) suffer from it.
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 10:57pm |
Nat if you can get a copy of the first issue of the OB mag there is an article on depression (more PND) in men. My DH did the story for OB as he got PND after I had Josh and it went into servere anxity and other issues as well. Have a read if it if you can as Katherine did a wonderful job on the story of male depression.
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 11:49pm |
There is one common theme with exercise helping, the reason it does this is that it increases seretonin levels in the body which is what makes you feel good, or if they are low, you feel bad.
I suggest that if anyone is feeling like anakk is, there are natural ways of beating depression. You shouldn't have to feel bad, you can feel good.
A few that we tried & do work are:
St Johns Work Be Happy tea (orange packet at Supermarket, not for preg or BF though)
Nutri-calm at health shop.
Vit B6
Yellow foods, ie bananas & pineapple
Excercise
Nathuropath. A good one is worth their weight in gold. If you are in the Rotorua region I highly recommend Aidan at the Rotorua Naturopathic Centre.
If you google Seretonin & Seretonin with food or depression it will bring up some good links.
Also we found a huge step was to tell the people around us, family especially for support for me & DH's work mates because they also need to understand why some days he's quieter or what ever.
 To everyone posting or to afraid to post.
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Posted: 04 July 2009 at 6:50am |
I suffered from PTSD, which lead to depression after watching my DH (then BF) having a heart attack at the age of 23. Obviously he's fine now, but after the initial panic wore off (about 3 months of driving every 2nd weekend from Palmy to AKL to be with him) the "what if's" took over. I failed my entire 3rd year at uni, I slept all day and was up all night. Fluoxitine made me manic, I was at the gym for 4 hours a day (looked good though!) and eventually Aropax was used and helped my recovery. I think being married to DH also helped.
I think I was very close to PND as well - also leading from events in the week after Lydia's birth (not all related to Lydia). Again, fixating on things, not able to get past what had happened, my MW mother was suggesting going to the dr for meds, but I was able to resolve the cause of the problem, and it went away again.
Like Anakk, I can feel it "yapping at the door" sometimes, I'm so terrified of feeling that bad again! When that happens, I make sure I start talking with DH about where I'm at, going for walks, and eating seratonin-inducing foods, anything to help.
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Posted: 04 July 2009 at 7:43am |
Aliasmum wrote:
A few that we tried & do work are:
St Johns Work Be Happy tea (orange packet at Supermarket, not for preg or BF though)
Nutri-calm at health shop.
Vit B6
Yellow foods, ie bananas & pineapple
Excercise
Nathuropath. A good one is worth their weight in gold. If you are in the Rotorua region I highly recommend Aidan at the Rotorua Naturopathic Centre.
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B6 does help DH, especially when he's only starting to feel a bit glum.
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Posted: 04 July 2009 at 5:30pm |
Babe - they never really found out why i had the episodes. But they were anxiety triggered and yet completely physical. I wouldnt remember anything and could be out for up to a couple hours with my eyes rolled back and shaking or jerking. Very scary for anyone who saw it. And afterwards im shattered and normally sleep for a few hours. I think i am now better at getting control of my anxiety before it gets to that point - i often remove myself from situations because i feel myself getting too anxious. I hate being in unfamiliar situations so generally avoid these and if i have to be in an unfamiliar situation i try and take someone familiar with me - like dh or mum - at least that way they can help keep me calm.
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Posted: 05 July 2009 at 7:08am |
My Dad had his first severe bout of depression when I was 10. I didnt understand or know what was happening, but lots of things changed. He stopped working, Mum had to go to work, we didnt have much money, I got teased for having a Dad who didnt work, and I thought he hated us cos he was never happy. I later found out that several friends of mine were no loneger allowed to come and play at my house because dad had a mental illness, and they lots friends because of it too.
He got better after a few years and got a job.
Fast forward to when I was 20, he got really bad again. Left his job after an incident with a colllegue. His depression was affecting my younger bro - 17 at the time who had multiple suicide attempts but was deemed not bad enough to get help in the public system. My Mum also got depressed under the stress of it all too. I moved out- but only next door with my now DH. It was far enough away to give me a break, but close enough to watch over them and help out.
This time my Dad saw a phychisatrist and had counselling regularly, and my bro had a bit of counselling. 9 years on, they are both still on antidepressants. Dad has never returned to any sort of work. My bro is the most stable and happy I ever remember him. He is no longer taking any drugs so is not aggressive and horrible like he used to get.
I had never been depressed, but when Isla was 8 months old i was diagnosed with PTSD by my GP after traumatic birth, and put on meds. I saw a maternal m,ental health nurse who was helping me weekly. 4 months on we moved towns. Things got much worse after that and in Feb 2008 I was hospitalised on mental helath ward asfter overdosng on every med I could find in the house. It was hideous- I truly believed that my daugther and husband, and everyone I knew would be better off and be able to get on and enjoy life if I wasnt around. My meds were changed again and increased again and agian, then about a month later I had a massive allergic reaction to my meds. I had made my body over sensitive to them by taking so many weeks worth at once when I OD'd that when the dose was increased by the Dr my body couldnt cope. I then had to withdraw off them cold turkey and that was the most horrendous experience of my life- Im crying now just thinking about it. I decided I had to do something else other than meds - the GP was great- he sort advise from my physcistrist and they gave me a week to put other things in place- I had to be seen by GP daily to adjust the meds they were giving me to cope with the withdrawl process.
I started having twice weekly accupucture, changing diet and taking a variety of natural meds from a natural health practioner. I was seeing a phycologist too and that really helped with processing the traumatic birth and everything else too. My offical diagnosis was Adjustment disordwer with depression. It was a slow struggle but I made a full recovery. So lucky to have a fantastic DH and parents.
A year on, in Feb this year I returned to part-time work at a nurse. I am now very excited to be preg with our second child. Im calm and happy and feeling the best I have in years.
Thanks for reading, lol, sorry it was a huge novel!
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