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SMoody
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Posted: 28 February 2008 at 10:49am |
So what doll do we end up with then? Perhaps we should all desighn one that is actually in proportion ect and give kids a good self image?
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nikkitheknitter
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Posted: 28 February 2008 at 10:56am |
I'm OK with Barbie generally... but "Princess Genevieve" is so pink and sparkly that it makes me want to throw up! haha
I think I can teach Hannah about body image without her being negatively affected by Barbie. I think it's how the parent approaches it. But I get the whole 'anti-Barbie' thing.
Hannah now thinks you have to wear makeup to be beautiful because my sister let her loose in her make up the other day. Argh.
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CuriousG
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Posted: 28 February 2008 at 12:37pm |
I don't see anything wrong with Barbie, I played with them growing up and actually lost interest with them by about 10 years old.
I never felt that they were how we should be. I mean, the influences from our mothers and grandmothers/aunties back then was much more than perhaps it is now and I actually looked up to them more than looking at Barbie and how 'pretty' she was.
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mum2paris
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Posted: 28 February 2008 at 5:58pm |
See i used to ba against barbie, but then realised that they have changed them a fair amount from the hookerish looks of the 1950-1980s and they are a little more realistic. but again, it's really the parents i think that take offence, little girls just like to dress them up and play with them, you have all sorts showing that little girls can be anything they want to be when they grow up like doctors baby photographers, vets, all sorts.. If we all went along tha tline then why aren't men up in arms about ken's unrealistic manly proportions, lol. but yes, Bratz dolls, oh my god, they dress like hookers, they even have body piercings some of them and if you take a look in the gameboy game bratz bought out the good chicks are the pretty ones and the bad-guys/girls are the ones that have been dulled down and aren't wearing skanky clothes. - what kind of message does that give girls.. all they do is dress up in skanky clothes in different skanky themes.. all skimpy and such like.
Barbie is fine, princesses etc and doctors and all the other things are all good. but hookerish facist teenage-skank dolls.. no way, i think by targeting them at the 8yr-ish mark too they are selling the fact that barbies are for little kid/girls, the hopes and dreams that barbie gives are for babies, and that what you should begin to aspire to be at 8yrs old is someone who is cool and glam and hangs out with cute guys all day. ICK
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Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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busymum
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Posted: 28 February 2008 at 7:36pm |
I don't mind Barbie too much for girls who like mothers and fathers types of games. Hannah still likes to be the mum and have the baby dolls, not so much playing with the "older" dolls. And I think that's quite age appropriate for her.
As for Bratz. I do NOT want my girls to dress like that...ever. So why would I want them to play with them as an 'acceptable' toy. And I particularly dislike that they are called (what kids would only think is brats, because it's pronounced the same). I most definitely don't want my girls to play with and enact brats! That really would be asking for trouble.
Hope I didn't offend anyone with my strong opinions!
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yummymummy
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Posted: 29 February 2008 at 6:54am |
I can't wait to get Gina her first Barbie - nothing against them here. I've already got her a Barbie back pack for daycare
I don't like the Bratz dolls either - they just seem weird and that's not even getting started on the clothes
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fattartsrock
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Posted: 29 February 2008 at 8:41am |
yummymummy wrote:
I can't wait to get Gina her first Barbie - nothing against them here. I've already got her a Barbie back pack for daycare
I don't like the Bratz dolls either - they just seem weird and that's not even getting started on the clothes |
me too, and me too.
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nuttymama
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Posted: 29 February 2008 at 9:27am |
Abby is 3 and loves her cheap versions of Barbie, we didn't want to buy the dearer ones until we knew if she would play with them and she loves them.
If you were wanting a doll like baby born but not so advanced I recommend the "Lissi new born Doll". We brought one for Abby's 3rd Birthday and she loves it. She drinks from a bottle(Empty) making a slurping noise and sucks a pacifier and goes to sleep. If you make a loud noise she wakes up, opens and closes her eyes. After 10mins of no playing with her she stops and restarts if put her bottle etc in. She also cries and laughs when you tickle her tummy. We brought her from farmers along with some clothes booties and nappies designed for her. She has a soft body and hard limbs so nice and cuddly. By far the best and most played with thing we have ever brought.
Ohh and I can't stand brats dolls, Abby will never be getting one of those.
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Abigail 06/01/2005
Jayden 21/11/2001
Micheal 03/04/1997
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