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ElfsMum
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Topic: opinions please Posted: 15 April 2008 at 11:42am |
My Dh has a good job that pays pretty well at the moment(he's a carpenter).. BUT...as it pays on a casual rate he doesnt get any holiday pay' supposed to be 'saved' from his pay but its not.. and so if he has a stat holiday or day off he doesnt get paid(though his boss is great and sometimes will pay anyway)...anyway
he's been offered a job somewhere else with pay that is pretty good..not quite as much..but the hours are 2pm-12am (5 on three off) ..
so would you (with a 2and a half month old) change to the new job with new hours.. in a job he might not like quite as much (but can still do carpentry when hes not working)but one that means he still gets paid over holidays(so even though he seems to not get paid as much it works out better due to holidays etc..)or not?
i would like him too.. he isnt sure..now i know its totally up to him but at the moment he hardly sees Ethan and he would get to see him more and the no holiday thing really really sucks esp over Christmas when he's forced to work even though his work closes down as he gets no pay otherwise and it means we never have a holiday or a day off without losing pay ..:(
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 12:06pm |
I think a happy husband is important. If he will be happier with the change then yes, otherwise I would keep working on it.
If the other job is less money, then perhaps what you need to do with the current job is save the difference between the 2 jobs and use that to get you through holidays, as taking the new job would mean that you wouldn't have that extra money anyway.
Also, with aa 2pm - midnight job, not only is that sort of shift work harder on the body, but it would mean that the days he is on he wouldn't see much of Ethan anyway.
Hard choice though.
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 12:06pm |
It is a hard choice and not really one I can advise on since at the end of it all your DH is the one that needs to go to work at wherever he decides to work.
What sort of work is the 2pm - 12am shift? Is it completely different to carpentry or will he be able to use his skills still?
For me, I love that my DH works an evening shift. He gets so much time with Michaela, it also means I can work during the day so we have the advantage of 2 incomes and no childcare costs. I hope that DH stays with evening work if we have #2 as well for the extra daytime help, the extra bonding time (which he didn't get in the early months with Michaela as he worked 8:30am - 5:30pm) plus the option for me to go back to work part time without struggling to find care.
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 12:08pm |
That's tough. It sucks that he doesn't get holiday pay but it really sucks ass to be in a job that you don't enjoy, especially if he's going to come from a job that he did like.
I'd personally be inclined to keep his current job but keep an eye out for a similar job but not on a casual rate rather than going to a job that he won't enjoy as much.
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 12:10pm |
Miss' idea is good, to put aside a bit of $ for the holidays. We do this anyway for Xmas so DH can get some really good time off but not use all his annual leave so he essentially takes leave without pay but we pay ourselves if that makes sense.
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 12:11pm |
Could he say to his current boss that he has been offered a fulltime job elsewhere but would like to stay at his current job if it was fulltime. Could work! You dont know if ya dont ask
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 12:14pm |
DF used to be in the same boat. He was doing the same job, but getting paid 'casual' so no holidays or sick days etc. He got offered another job but on wages so in the end it worked out for him because the stat days he could still work for cash, so get paid in his wages for the stat day, but actually go to work and get paid for going in on a stat day, and he LOVES getting holiday pay and time off.
He hates his job though, and works with horrible people so almost always comes home grumpy!
I say if hes happy where he is then to stay because if he wont like the other job he may turn out the same, coming home grumpy because he hates his job.
JMO.
Havent read the other posts tho.
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 12:58pm |
miss-if we could save it wouldnt be a problem:) he would get more days off..possibly 4 on 4 off it seems...I'm totally leaving it up to him but still:)
mrsmojo- warehouse type work with his best friend.. but at least he wouldnt be grumpy when he gets home every day he loves his job but its very hard.. yeah i know noone can say what to do i just wondered what you guys thought.. yeah it would suit me and temporarily Ethan better on those hors..there is night shift available too ..
kebakat- the problem is he never saved it before he met me and then now we jus tgot used to having that money and cant really save:(
though i rad your post on budgeting..we certianly could save some dollars there! anyway.. he is a bad procrastinator..he wont look for anything i think its just this is being handed to him..he applied before and they said no ..but now realised how much they screwed up and that he'd be a fab employee.. which he would..better than most of the ones they have atm.
he gets 750 a week..which esp this week when the 325 car payment comes out isnt really enough for us to save:(
topsy-his current job is fulltime.. he refuses to talk to his boss about changing the way he's paid..no idea why its been a bone of contention for me since we met..and he gets paid by cheque which irritates me no end as well!:)
kylahsmum- yeha he could do jobs on his days off so that wold help and theres always someone who wants him to do something for them..it goes like this 'what does your DH do' 'he's a carpenter' 'oh is he busy atm?' :)
thanks for your opinions everyone:)
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 1:13pm |
Casual pay is a funny thing. People on casual pay DO get holiday pay, but it is paid as you go whereas with other staff, it is saved up in the payroll system. Holiday pay is 8% of gross earnings and everyone gets it one way or another. It should appear separately on payslips and if it doesn't then the employer is breaking the law. If that is the main worry, could he put that 8% into a different account? Just an idea :)
If he works regularly, i.e. more 10 hours per week for 3 months or more, then he shouldn't be on a casual rate (legally that is). Furthermore, if, for example, he works every Monday for 6 weeks and then the 7th monday is a public holiday then he should legally be paid for it. It all depends on how long he has been employed and what his pattern of work is.
Sorry...there is no easy way to explain it as NZ employment law is confusing. However, if you have more quesions just let me know :)
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 1:17pm |
yeah sorry i mean tto say that..:) (bout holiday pay) no we really cant afford to save that much atm:( he should have been doing it since he had the job but he hasnt:(
in the building trade it is legal apparently..:) i already asked that one.. i never heard that about holidays?his boss sometimes pays them for it(as hes a good guy) but he doesnt have too.. maybe its a building contract thing?
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 1:19pm |
the whole thing just pisses me off and makes no sense to a married person with a family!:) as it means we can never have a holiday without worrying:( (or learning to save) :)
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 1:26pm |
Legally they have to pay IF he has worked on that day of the week over the several weeks preceeding. It is NZ employment law and applies to trades people too but the boss is probably not up with what he is legally supposed to do.
Usually a casual rate + holiday pay is just the pro-rata equivalent of what he'd be paid if he worked fulltime (pro-rata meaning a fulltime salary, broken down into an hourly rate).
It must be tricky :( I think many many employers are unaware of their obligations.
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 1:34pm |
ok thanks..i will talk to him about it..his boss has been great to us..but id just like us to have normal jobs:)
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