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busymum
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Topic: CYFS notifications - ever a good thing? Posted: 08 October 2008 at 9:42pm |
Can CYF notifications ever be a good thing? As in, if someone got narked on or even contacted them directly, can CYF get involved without going "nasty"; ie in order to get extra support, whether that be counselling or whatever....
I'm not explaining myself very well but hopefully someone out there understands my late-night ramblings!! Ah well, I'll go to bed and come back tomorrow
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Posted: 08 October 2008 at 9:51pm |
i think so... i'm pretty sure there main focus is not to take kids from families but work at keeping families together... (mind you that can be a bad thing sometimes...)
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Posted: 08 October 2008 at 9:55pm |
They are there to help. I think they get a bad name because by the time CYFS are brought in the situation has gotten pretty bad, and you never really want to admit the situation you are in is that bad. (I think my late night ramblings are just as bad)
I know someone who has had them visit a number of times. i haven't really talked to them much about it but I know they are doing a lot better now, and appreciate the help that they have had from them.
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Posted: 09 October 2008 at 5:59am |
I know my family worked wiht CIFS with my brother, meetings, cousuling and things like that, What exactly i don't know due to the fact i wasn't living in NZ anymore. So yes they can be helpfull too.
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Posted: 09 October 2008 at 7:19am |
I think ideally, that's what they're there to do. I mean, I'm sure for the people working there the best outcome is a happy 'together' family.
Unfortunately, I think they must see so much nasty stuff that sometimes it's easy to make assumptions. I've heard it can be like that for police officers - you see the lowest of the low every day, so you get a bit jaded about it.
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Posted: 09 October 2008 at 9:15am |
My family worked with CYFS when one of my siblings was going through a bad time. They were quite helpful and offered a lot of options and services to work towards resolution of the problems.
The only complaint I can remember was that the worker was always running late, but when you hear about the case loads and serious stuff they deal with, you can forgive them that!
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Posted: 09 October 2008 at 9:24am |
I think MOST of the time they are helpful... but it's just the social stigma surrounding a CYFS call out that means that people consider it a negative thing.
I wish that CYFS didn't have that image as then people would call a lot more frequently and there'd be a lot more preventative work going on instead of picking up the pieces once things are really bad ya know?
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Posted: 09 October 2008 at 11:13am |
You can also call their call centre and have a discussion, if you're not sure whether a notification is required. They'll be able to tell you whether one is warrented, or what else might need to happen.
I've made quite a few notifications for my job. Some have had good outcomes, while others haven't been as I'd hoped, but mostly because I've felt they haven't done enough to help the child. Ultimately it's about protecting children and if we have any concerns about a childs safety, I think it's our duty as adults to report it.
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Posted: 10 October 2008 at 9:41pm |
nicelis wrote:
I think MOST of the time they are helpful... but it's just the social stigma surrounding a CYFS call out that means that people consider it a negative thing. |
Yea that's what I've been pondering. Thing is, you only hear the worst - kinda like you only hear about 111 calls to the Police that don't get answered in time.  Thanks for that.
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Posted: 11 October 2008 at 10:51am |
My sister has had some real problems with her 15 year old boy getting into big trouble with the police. He's a good kid underneath it all but has some real issues to deal with. The school decided something must be wrong at home so called CYFS in to investigate. My sister isn't perfect but she has 3 kids on her own and works god awful hours (about 70 hours a week) to keep up with rent and put food on the table. She had a CYFS officer come and sit with her every morning for a week to watch her care for the two younger children. They left at the end of it and didn't reccomend taking it any actions as nothing was wrong but she found the whole experience very upsetting.
Her boy then got himself arrested again a few months ago and was taken to a CYFS home where he was beaten by one of the CYFS carers. That person has been dismissed due to assaulting the boys in his care but I have to say the experience has shaken us all. My nephew is a handfull and i'm not excusing his behavior, but beating the cr*p out of 15 year old kid doesn't solve anything. The horrible thing was that we found out the CYFS person had done it before and was still being allowed to care for kids.
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Posted: 11 October 2008 at 11:04am |
I should add to that that CYFS do good work in many situations and it is a shame that we need to have them in order to keep kids safe.
They may be able to assist if there is a problem in the family but don't expect the person on the receiving end to be happy about it. By all means call CYFS in if you are at all concerned as there are far too many tragedys on the news that could have been avoided if somone had piped up and made the call.
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Posted: 14 October 2008 at 11:05pm |
Danaj wrote:
My sister has had some real problems with her 15 year old boy getting into big trouble with the police. He's a good kid underneath it all but has some real issues to deal with. The school decided something must be wrong at home so called CYFS in to investigate. My sister isn't perfect but she has 3 kids on her own and works god awful hours (about 70 hours a week) to keep up with rent and put food on the table. She had a CYFS officer come and sit with her every morning for a week to watch her care for the two younger children. They left at the end of it and didn't reccomend taking it any actions as nothing was wrong but she found the whole experience very upsetting.
Her boy then got himself arrested again a few months ago and was taken to a CYFS home where he was beaten by one of the CYFS carers. That person has been dismissed due to assaulting the boys in his care but I have to say the experience has shaken us all. My nephew is a handfull and i'm not excusing his behavior, but beating the cr*p out of 15 year old kid doesn't solve anything. The horrible thing was that we found out the CYFS person had done it before and was still being allowed to care for kids. |
Your poor nephew.
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Posted: 15 October 2008 at 11:15am |
well we have CYFS kids and some of these kids should never hav been taken from there parents........every area is different but i dont hold much regard for CYFS worker.........im a social worker myself . If you do get a call from them and if they do get taken away do what ever they tell you to do ....most have to go to parenting seminar.........dont hesitate the longer you leave your kids in care the worse it gets. Alot of the parents say there good parents and dont see why they have to do anything...and i agree alot are but hey if it means getting your kids back you suck it up. on the other side i have called CYFS on my relation they one year old was given whiskey in a bottle and CYFS did nothing they wanted me to gather evidence............told them that there not that understaff so they are paid to do that............the family now has moved into the bush and who knows what will happen.
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