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    Posted: 22 January 2010 at 2:31pm
Not sure where to chuck this, so it can just pop in here.
I have had clinical depression are reaction to a major lifechanging event myself, so I know what its like, I know how people could directly help me etc, but I learned to talk to those closest to me.

but what do you do to help and sport guys? Especially quiet instrinsic by nature guys.

I've always been the one with issues........bit out of my depth here :S

edited to add: He's on my fb so it would be good to keep it off there.

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I take it it's your DH??

Basically make them eat right, exercise, nag them to take tablets & be general Nag of the year stuff!

I helped my DH through depression. They don't want to know anything about it really. But put all the info you know to good use.

If he doesn't want to see a Dr about it or doesn't want to go on prescp drugs then look into Nutricalm. I started off giving my DH 9 a day. Also B6 I think it is as well.

I asked him morning & night if he'd taken his tablets. He hated me for it but now agrees that he couldn't have got through it with out my nagging.

He probably won't want to burden you with it so suggest a few counseling sessions when he's a bit more "with it"

but at least you have a very good understanding what he is going through.
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My DH didn't have depression but he did get some counselling for some stuff through his work. See if the guy's work has an Employee Assistance Program as they can get some free counselling through that.

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He has agreed to go to his doctor, which is great. Helps his mother is his boss and he's got some time off, on that condition. He's hesitant about actual drugs because he saw what they did to me before I got better, but I might pick up some B12 complex.

I think my nagging, and his mums nagging, is half of the problem. No matter how supportive we are, we both have an underlying unspoken agenda, and we can't change that, its circumstantial. His mother needs him at work, we are developing a section and he needs to be well to work on that and to prepare for kidlet the second.

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Bobbie his mother has agreed to pay for treatments, but we're a little limited out in the whops. I'm hoping he's going to go for a mentoring program through Church too.
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With the tablets you could compromise & say try the natural way & if that doesn't work (give it at least the bottle fill) then go for the Dr's stuff.

I found not pussy footing around his issue (accident/loss of limb) was better than trying to hide it.

I was meaning more nagging to make sure he was eating right etc.

Mind you I still have to nag him now to do stuff, but could be a general male thing

Good idea re the mentoring through your church. He will open up to someone else. They don't want to burden us with more on top of kids etc.
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I'm not sure he'll 'open up' to someone else, I think to a degree its more of a physical depression if that makes sense? But I'm hoping there'll be a friendship type relationship formed where he can just relax with another guy with none of the expectations/pressure of home and work. His brother is helping me with that.

At what stage does post-natal depression become normal depression. With the changes and pressures he's been under I'm starting to wonder if its linked with Hollie's birth. It hasn't been smack bang like mine, its been a gradual change over a few months, maybe a bit longer.

The nutritions a big one. I cook the dinners but that is the least important meal of the day. I'll make an effort to get up earlier and prepare some decent breakfasts and lunches for him.

Thanks guys, so much. I felt a bit lost. Its certainly common enough in females, but with guys its a whole new world. For me anyway :)
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My Dh doesn't have depression but he does have an anxiety problem, when Kyle was born he had a major "freak out" as we now jokingly call it. He wouldn't believe anything I said to him so in the end I printed stuff off the net about agrophobia, panic attacks and so forth. He read it, booked himself into the GP and a counsellor. Was easier for him to believe google than me..lol

He did end up on meds and still is, the way I see it (and he now sees it as he was very very reluctant to take them) was that if you are diabetic you take insulin you don't stop taking it to see if you are ok without it or try something else first etc. Something in his brain is not quite wired right and the drugs fix it. I doubt he will ever come off them. I think the mentality around meds need to change, they are just as necessary as heart med/insulin etc, no one really questions the necessity to take those but there is such a stigma to anti depressants and similar meds.

Hope everything improves for you guys soon, it can be tough but is worth hanging in there.

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first of all
i recently went through this with DP. his depression had been getting gradually worse over about a year and a half and was never dealt with because i didn't want to push him into doing anything he didn't want to do. it was only when it got so bad that i couldn't take it anymore that i told him he either had to get help or i was leaving.
depression runs in his family so luckily his mum and sister were really supportive, they helped him go to the doc and get a prescription and now the difference is unbelievable. he's happy again, he laughs and plays with the kids and just enjoys life!
i'm still working on getting him to go to some counselling sessions, he's really not the type of guy to open up about things, especially to a stranger but i really think it would be beneficial to him.
i also heard that caffiene and (i'm not saying this applies to you at all) marijuana can contribute toward depression. maybe try buying decaf for him for a while and see how that goes?

good luck! i know how hard it can be.

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I too sympathise..and my partner has suffered depression in the past...and yup nagging was something I did aswell!. Always made sure he was taking his meds, and making sure that if he did have a drink...it wasn't going to affect his meds. He's gone off them now, and is back to normal. It seems to flare (only twice when needed medication) when major things happen....first time (which was worse as it was coupled with drug induced psychosis..very scary time!) was when I crashed his flash car..and I had no insurance!...this was back in 2005...and 2nd (far more managable...was only depression) was last year, when we was totally bogged down with work, handling his mum's finances, and being a "parent" to his two teenage sisters (discipline,money, school etc)...it just got too much for him...it was a time where we as a couple were having problems as well. Now things couldn't be better. Just continue to be there for your man, support him and things will come right.








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