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    Posted: 31 March 2008 at 1:26pm

This has been bugging me for a while, so thought I would ask for your opinions.

Last week I went to Sylvia Park, and ended up feeding OIi in the parents room. Its normally lovely and quiet during the week and I find it easier to give him his bottle in there. So, I am sitting in one of the "cubicles" feeding him, and in the cubicle next to me is a very young looking mum feeding her baby, she had a mate in there with her and they were speaking really really loudly and swearing and cursing, a conversation that would have been right at home in a high school playground or school bus stop (basically b*tching and sl*gging people off).  I felt that the language was really inappropriate for the location, but as they were both quite "agressive" I didnt say anything.

So I guess my question is - if someone is using inappropriate language around your children, even if you dont know them, do you ask them to stop? And does the same apply for babies?

 

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Argh, Simsam - that is the sort of thing you'd expect at a bus stop, but sounds so out of place in a parents' room - I have no idea what I'd do! Probably the same as you. I'd be interested to hear what other people think.
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I'd like to say that I'd tell them off but in reality I'm not sure I would, as you said there were a couple of them and they were quite aggresive. I think I'd have to judge the situation.

I generally have no issue politely asking complete strangers to do something (teenagers often hang out at one of the playgrounds we frequent and several times I've had to ask them to "get off the equipment if they're not playing" as they sit at the bottom of the slides preventing the kids from using them).
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Yeah, its one of those situations where I wished I had said something, but the reality was I felt quite intimidated by them. I guess I just cant imagine having a conversation like that whilst I was feeding my baby!

 

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My DH told me awhile ago that he'd been on a train with a young girl and her baby who was upset and he couldn't believe the language she was using talking to her baby telling it to "shut up" etc. I felt so sorry for her and her baby.
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I have a gutter mouth. Unfortunately my kids are used to it. They tell me off when I use the F word, or sometimes they choose to ignore it.

In that instance though, I think I'd be inclined to say something to them.
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I would have loved to have said something too but in those situations I'm more scared that they would then get angry at me and then who knows what they would do.
I've seen people in supermarkets having arguments in front of children and throwing cans etc at each other and there's a child in the way...
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Originally posted by .Mel .Mel wrote:

I have a gutter mouth. Unfortunately my kids are used to it. They tell me off when I use the F word, or sometimes they choose to ignore it.

In that instance though, I think I'd be inclined to say something to them.


Me too I live with a truck driver, what hope do I have? And my poor kids have to live with it too. Interestingly enough tho Maya understands that she isn't allowed to swear (major double standard I know!) and we never really had a prob with her swearing as a toddler/preschooler except when my Dad of all people accidentally taught her the F word at 15 mths and it was a bit of a novelty.

I think the situation you describe tho Sam is waaaay outta line and I would probably have said something, most likely under my breath tho.
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Hmm, I'd be inclined not to say anything, as ESPECIALLY if they were aggresive, the safety of me and my child come first, so wouldn't want any physical violence to erupt, or have them personally verbally abuse me in front of my child/baby.

I guess it's a hard one, as how you put it to them? "Aah, excuse me, your language is not appreciated in this environment" maybe?? But you wouldn't want to come across in a stern way, as this could put their back up.

I do feel sick when I hear parents speak to their child in horrible language, directing it at the child.
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Oh God, I NEVER swear AT my kids (I just swear ABOUT them when they can't hear me ), altho I might have been a bit blunt in telling Maya to go back to bed when she got up for the fourth time the other night...

I always get angry when I hear people swear at their kids in public places. A couple of times I've been out with Deborah and we've heard people cuss at their kids and she's had them up about it.
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Really Emma, Deborah's said something to the parent?? wow, she's brave! How did she go about it?
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She IS brave! We were at Butterfly Creek and we heard some woman say something to her son, I can't remember whether it was "p*ss off" or "shut your mouth" or something not nice and the kid would have been about 3 or 4 and Deborah just straight out said to her "don't talk to him like that". The woman just gave her a filthy look and then ignored her but I was like wow, good on you for saying something!
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The fact that the woman didn't say anything back, probably made her realise she shouldn't have said it. If she had a fair enough reason (is there one??) to speak to a young child like that, then she would've.. maybe(?) debated it with Deborah.
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hmm that is a tricky one, i wouldnt want to say anything either, but if it was really grating on me, i would maybe ask them to talk quieter - say my baby is getting distracted and wont drink the bottle or some white lie like that. it wont teach them what is appropriate to talk about in public, but might quieten them down a bit.

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Ah, terrible words regularly jump out of my mouth (though not at Hannah. Well... not usually ) but I did tell a kid off for swearing in front of Hannah the other day. SO HYPROCRITICAL! But then he called his mates 'c##ks###ers' which I did think was terrible rude! And he was about 10! He did look very embarrassed and mumbled "Sorry miss." Wasn't a bad kid at heart.

I sort of have a general rule that I don't swear AT people. I know that doesn't excuse it, but it is something I don't tolerate.

Hannah knows that swearing is bad and tells me off all the time.

Oh, and back on track - I think that language in the parents room sounds a bit terrible too!
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I admit to still using rude words around Lily, though we know the days are numbered.

i wouldn't say anything, just becasue they are going to hear it and be exposed to it and I would treat it as a learning experience if they were old enough to learn.

I get more peed off by parents who let their older toddlers roar around the room screaming at the top of their lungs upsetting all of those who are trying to feed babies to be honest. Though I do agree bad language is innapropriate in that situation.
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I've told children off for running around a shop yelling and upsetting Eva, when she was in her pram. They were about 10 and apologised.

I probably wouldn't have said anything to the couple about the swearing, but might have asked them to quieten down, if they were being loud.

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That is terrible for a parents room. i have a potty mouth at times too and yes I have sworn at my children in fits of angry *yes bad mum I know* but over all I try my hardest not to use bad language around them and never use bad language around others kids. It usually only when Im losing the plot.

I would have said something after all I have confronted bad mouthed teenagers in shopping malls and nasty pre teens abusing blanket man in the middle of Wellington.

Simsam I think you did the right thing tho as yours and Oliver's safety is paramount.


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Forgot to add I like Emma hav never had any problems with the toddlers/pre schoolers/ and older kids swearing, they know it is a big no no no..... Infact Lesieli has pulled me up for my potty mouth and I have had to apologise on a few occassions.Embarrassed


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