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    Posted: 03 July 2008 at 8:42pm
I have been pondering this for a while: Where do parents go when they need help? If you are struggling with PND, you go see your LMC or GP. But what do you do when a couple of years pass, your kids are at the terrible 2's or whatever, or a family member's health is under threat - where can you turn to?

There are so many news reports coming out these days about people beating up their kids and those kids being in bad shape, if not dead. The family says they were struggling or having a hard time, or the medical report indicates that the injuries have been over some time. I don't think people set about to have kids so they can thrash them, so isn't it more likely to be that they were not coping but didn't know where to turn?

I know that CYFS can give a hand in certain areas and certainly do home/caregiver type assessments. And these would probably be helpful for the average Jo Bloggs parent who just needs a little encouragement that they are actually on the right track. But CYFS is far more known for stepping in and taking kids that I think their name alone is enough to set fear in the hearts of parents, not support.

So where do you turn when the sh*t hits the fan? Especially those of you whose parents/ILs aren't helpful or nearby?
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OooooOoooOooo my first edit ROFL
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I don't know the answer, but to add to the mix - why is it that if you get antenatal/postnatal depression, you qualify for Maternal Mental Health services which have a holistic approach in terms of medication, therapy, alternative stuff. Yet if the average person gets depression, there are no agencies set up to provide the same cohesive approach, the community mental health teams are far too swamped by those with 'severe' mental illness or those that pose a risk to the community, so it becomes user pays. And counselling isn't cheap - $60++++ per hour and most people need multiple sessions.
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Emma i know what you mean. I had postnatal depression that wasnt diagnosed until Janaya was 9 months old, so it meant i couldnt be treated under the maternal mental health service.

I ended up going to the mental health daybase every day and doing therapy with 15 or so other adults who had severe mental illnesses. It was so awful The therapy was pretty intense and i was really out of place there. I couldnt even speak to any of them!

It wasnt until my doctor found me a postnatal support group that i finally started to get somewhere.

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I'm very lucky that I have a very good relationship with my GP, and I can go to him anytime, he knows everything that I have been thru, and if I feel like I cant' go to DH or family, I go to him. He didn't refer me to MMH because he didn't want to lose contact with me. He's been looking after me for the past 12 years so I go to him.... and if he's not available I see his wife. They have both been wonderful to me and my family.

After the ex died I tried counselling but it wasn't me... I felt more comfortable with my GP...
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I have no idea either... terrible isn't it.

Emma - I know there are a lot of youth counselling places that are free, but yeah none for over 25's that I know of. I used to get free care for my depression at the youth health clinic which was great, but I don't *fit* there anymore as I'm not a wayward teen.

I really feel for people without the support of family nearby, I know we couldn't cope without my family and it has shown me just how much they care with them all stepping up and helping out while D's been away these past 3 months and Jack's been the child from hell. I heart my mummy and daddy!
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When parents needed help when I was younger their doctor could refer their babies to what were the Old karitane Hospitals where we nurses worked, for us to get their babies/toddlers into sleeping or eating routines or into the mothercraft unit/
I SAY again BRING BACK THE KARITANE HOSPITALS INSTEAD OF THE FAMILY CENTRES
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hmmm I know in Palmy there is a few diff agencies mostly run by local churches but you don't have to belong as such, like presbartaian sp support does alot of work with families...........
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I guess this is where in the past maybe neighbours/friends, community, church etc. would have been there? It's sad that so many people are drifting off into their own sheltered "units".

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Places like Catholic Social Services, Salvation Army and Presbytarian Support (to name a few) offer free help to everyone, whether you're part of their church or not, but as newmum said a lot of people have 'drifted' away and wouldn't even consider using them, may not even know they're available, it's a real pity.

 

In Wgtn there's a place called the Downtown Community Ministry which can also put people in touch with affordable counsellers.



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Hey, i dont know if this will help, but although it's called Youthline, youthline actually has a counselling service set up.
Its based upon a sliding cale for payments so you pay what you can afford and they are pretty good.
I think that alot of people over look them because the are called YOUTHLINE but i kid you not, they cater to people of all ages.

I used to wrk with them so have no difficulty referring you guys to them...
Their phone service as well, is manned by fully trained counsellours <i should know i used to work with them >
I know this probably doesnt help but honest, If you are really stuck, it cant hurt to try them...

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I was just thinking and chatting with DH about this the other night. I feel like there is such a huge lack of support for families especially those who don't have family support. We need a system where parents can ring someone like a centre or whatever and they can look after your baby/child any time at short notice an it be safe, cheap and welcoming for a while so that parents can have a break.

Thank goodness for my sister who is amazing support. She lives close by and we help each other. it's hard when you don't have parents who live close by DH parents live in Tauranga. They are great thsy are coming up especially to look after luke so we can have our first night out!! yah

My parents are great but on a different level.They are often busy or on hoilday ahh to be retired!

Also life line do face to face counselling it's cheap and a great service.

I say the government should set up a service like they have in a place called pengreen in England. It's a one stop shop so to say. With all services you need right from conception till they go to school in one complex.
Midwives, doc's, mental health workers, nurses, childcare, drop in centre, support groups, da's groups, young mums groups . It's amazing and has been going for 25 years.

It's an amazing concept that we need in NZ.
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Parent Port is helping me get through a few hours of sleeplessness about once a week for a few hours before my baby has her operation to correct her severe colick.

This is a temporary service that helps with any aspect of parenting the client needs ie housework, just someone to talk to, a bit of childcare if you need some sleep, a chance to go to your medical appointment without baby etc.
The service is free and its nice to donate IF you can.

You can have up to 6 or so sessions of 3 or so hours at a time or longer if you have special needs, eg mums going through chemotherapy or suffering from mental illnesses etc. The service operates in parts of Auckland and further North but that's all I know about it.

I was referred to them by a friend and its been my lifesaver. My helper comes to talk to me, hang out the washing, amuse baby while I try get a bit of a break etc. I have only had her over 3 times and am saving the rest of my allocated time for after Sophia's operation.

My helper also watches Sophia while I go pick up the older 2 kids from school. The best bit is helping me with a touch of housework as I battle total exhaustion that makes me feel like I have punched. I only sleep about 3 or 4 hours a night, sometimes less, sometimes a bit more.
Sophia is 16 months old.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote susieq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2008 at 7:30am
I still say we need what was THE OLD KARITANE HOSPITALS as well to help all you young Mums out there.        that dont have any support and I know alot of ex karitane nurses who like me would agree
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Yes Suzie but I'm talking about well after that stage, ie when the kids turn into toddlers or whatever and you need help with actual parenting issues not just feeding and sleeping matters.


Ofelia, that sounds really cool! Good on you for having the guts to take up the assistance offered too.
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