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    Posted: 13 October 2006 at 7:52pm
Well the good news is that Maddie is sleeping at night...the bad news is that it mainly seems to be because she has exhausted herself through out most of the day and evening!

We're finding the last 3 days she has been unsettled from her feed at around 6.00am/7.00am until her next feed and then again in the evening feed around 5.30/6.00pm through again until her next feed.

This morning she was awake for 4.5 hours with only a 20 min snooze. She doesn't cry the whole time but it seems to come in waves and it's really hard to calm her.

Most of the time we've been taking it in turns to just hold her and pat her etc. I also got hold of infacol drops today, we used them at her evening feed...she's still been awake but doesn't seem to be crying as much.

The hardest part right now is that it's so frustrating when Maddie keeps crying and you can't do anything. I've been keeping the rescue remedy on hand!

Anyway, I'm off to the Plunket Family Centre for the day on Monday so here's hoping I get some good tips but from what I've read it sounds a lot like colic.

What do you guys think and do you have any other good tips or things that have worked for you whether it's calming baby or calming yourself?

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What worked for me is telling myself that the screaming can't last forever... I just had to keep calm and breathe slowly... the little terrors feel your tension and respond by working themselves up even more!

Mind you, Han didn't have colic so I don't really know... but I think most babies have a time of night when they are terrors. Han still does now
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Rescue remedy is fabulous. I also keep saying to myself, "Its not personal, is the only way he has of communicating" Over and over and over as I pace the floor!!
Hang in there, things generally get miles better once they hit that 3 month mark.

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Ashlee's at 3 months now and she has her grumpy time anywhere from 4-7pm. It used to be A LOT worse. The only thing that would calm her down would be to cradle her on her tummy across our arms, pacing the room. It gets tiring so make sure you take it in turns! Or rocking her in my arms in the rocking chair always put her to sleep, even if it was for only 30-40mins. We also found that our 2nd week was worse than our first week so I think it might be pretty normal for bubs to just cry!

I had thought that Infacol worked for us, but we discovered it was only very temporary and then ended up giving her more of a tummy ache. The colic powder worked brilliantly for us (by Weleda).

Lots of fresh air really helps. And being able to sit down to a hot cup of tea while someone else takes bubs.
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aww it relly suxs that you are having shuch a hard time at the mo i was lucky i had my mum and my sister there for me thought all the screaming and it was pulket who found he had a herina the hole time glad to hear you are using the infacol as well helps alot with there wind the one thing i got asked re cocil was is he crying at the same time everyday/night cause if yes then it could be colic lots of hug hunny and remeber we are here to talk too as most of us have been there cryed though that
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Paws, Is she spilly? does she arch her back during and after feeds?

At the moment it just sounds like she has wind trapped.... but if she is spilling (most of her feed) and arching her back these are common signs of colic/reflux

Trish

also have you tryed gripe water? that works for some people GOOD LUCK
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Yeah she can be pretty spilly...not all the time but often enough. She will arch her back when trying to burp her, not so noticable during or after feeds though.

We used the infacol this morning though and B said it really helped with the burping, she kept everything else down and she went back to bed!

We have tried gripe water also but we found that while it helped with the burping it increased the spilling. (fantastic on the hiccups though!)

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Sorry to hear Paws, we had a real rough few weeks with Ella but once we found a way to burp her without her being in pain from her reflux aswell things started to calm down.

I think the main thing i can recommend is feeding her in small amounts and burping her often. I have a feeding pillow and i sit ella up and lean her forward onto her pillow and she lets it all rip at both ends lol

But yeh i guess all you can do is try bubs on the colic powder to, i concur with Kirst that Ash seems alot better on it now
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PS its also hard to tell at night if its colic or their witching hour. Colic they seem to say the baby has screaming fits of 3hours and cannot be settled no matter what. And they mean screaming as in red face crying all of the works, just keep an eye out for reflux to coz they can come hand in hand
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I was on a website the other day www.annakbabycare.co.nz and on there is a massage book that some parents have purchased to help them with their baby that has colic....Aparently it has made life alot easier for them and their little girl is alot happier.....Check it out.....I think the book is about $5 on line...

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I have a baby who does have Reflux and he is on Losec for that. But he seems to have chronic bad wind down low which I often think is Colic. Colic is just really really bad wind/pains isnt it???


tell me I have been using Infacol as well before most feeds...its seems to work. Blake is quite settled from about 9pmish feed and thereafter feeds til 7 in morning. Then unless we are out in the car or I sit and rock him in his cot..he is a nightmare. Screaming and little legs pulling up. He will settle then wake and scream and oh it just goes on!!! I cant wait til the 3 month mark..I am hoping for awee small miracle!!


hang in there ..I can understand what you are going through and its extremely tiring and does your head in!!!



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Jess, I'm not needing to use it now haven't used it in a few weeks actually!
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Caitlin had colic when we were demand feeding her, turned out that I was making it worse (feeding her every time she screamed thinking she was hungry ) anyways - we went through a bottle of gripe water which did nada and every burping position known to man!

We discovered Infacol and that stuff is the best ever! Also a tip, prop the head end of her cot/basinette up (height of a phone book) this apparently helps let the air up whilst keeping her food down. We still do this with Caitlin. I think the other signs for Colic was pullnig up the legs to the chest (Caitlin never did this) and green poos (I think this happens with Digestive colic?!?!)

We tried last week to have a few feeds without the Infacol, but we just ended up with a baby in pain with a belly full of gas
The other way to tell if she has bad gas is if her belly is rock hard and has a "banging" sound when she starts her feeds. That's what we found anyways.

Good luck Paws - I know it's hell when you have a tiny baby screaming at you, you feel so helpless. We called everyone we knew that had kids and asked them what they did... then did it ALL!
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Toni - I was the same with Han for the first few weeks... she'd feed and get a belly full of wind and stop feeding... then would start screaming again and so I'd try feeding again! Argh!

My midwife suggested taking Han off the breast within the first two minutes to burp her... then again at five minutes. This seemed to help Han as she didn't get the big build up.
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Well we've been using the infacol and this morning we got Maddie to settle back down!! I'm still not in a hurry to label her as haaving colic, she may just have been windy but something is working today!

We even put her down still awake and she drifted off both times! WOHOO!

And yes we adjusted her bassinet (ezi rocker in the cot) so that it is angled we give her plenty of breaks through out her bottle and burp her - though I'm not great at getting burps out of Maddie.

I'm still looking forward to going to Plunket tomorrow though...I refuse to be lulled into a false sense of security!

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Good work Gen!

Sounds like you guys are doing really well.
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Sounds like things are a little better then... Hope it continues!

Colic is when they scream inconsolably for several hours at the same time everyday, not just that they have wind. And most babies have a really unsettled period in the early evening but its not necessarily colic.
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Plunket Family Centres are great!
We always put Caitlin into her cot awake now, we used to rock her or cuddle her to sleep and as soon as we put her in her cot she would be wide awake again!

The nurse there told us "It's like us falling asleep in bed and waking up in the bath! You don't know how you got there and it scares you" same with babies
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In the early days, we'd have some very unsettled days. I then read the chapter on sleep out of the Oh Baby book - brilliant! I felt so sorry for Amelia, as I felt I'd been making things worse for her - every time she was crying, I was picking her up thinking she was hungry or windy, when in fact sometimes she was just between sleep cycles and was crying herself back to sleep.

I'm not saying that is the case with you, but as 1st time mum's we have a learning curve and sometimes what we think, isn't what is wrong.

Sounds like lifting the cot has worked well,good luck at the family centre - I've only heard good things about the one down here.
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