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    Posted: 07 June 2009 at 12:26pm
now this is something that really grates me!!!

I was at the supermarket and had finished my shopping and in front of me was a car with 2 young children..one around 18 months -2 years and another 3-4 years age.

I could not see any carseats!!! and get this the mother (or caregiver) did not even put seatbelts on the children!!!!.

I waited in my car to get their licence plate so I could dial #555 on my cellphone..but that was pointless as my phone is broken (I can hear people but they cant hear me).

long story short I ended up putting a report through the police website..so hopefully they will be caught up with
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It's awful

I had a similar discussion at Playgroup about this last week.
Ours was along the lines of the kids not being strapped in properly, if at all.
It's the parents choice not to strap their children in safely (and I by no means condone this!!!), so they have to deal with the repercussions.

However, the other party involved an any accidents that occur are going to feel AWFUL for the rest of their lives if anything happens to those kids.


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OMG!! I am like the seatbelt police, if i ever see anyone in the same car as me not wear a seatbelt i growl until they put it on and i think its sooo stupid, but this is sooo much worse.

I can see how someone could think its not so bad not having a carseat for the 3-4yo (altho i so so do NOT agree) but not to put the younger one in a carseat WTF?!? and not even a seat belt on both of them! it seriously make me wanna cry.

I think people who do that deserved to be locked up OMG

Coz if I was to crash in2 them I would actually go completely insane and would never ever be able to get over it, and i wouldn't feel right having my own baby either even thou we have been trying very hard for one simple because of someone elses babies that i would have killed only because some idoit didnt strap them in.

hmmmm i wonder if that person was to be pulled over i wonder how big the ticket would have been?
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I think it is $150 for each person not in a seatbelt although not sure if it is more for children not in carseats.(obviously unrestrained)

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I'd hate to think what the people in the cars next to me think when they see lil miss standing up in the window with a big grin on her face . Not that she isn't strapped in - she can bloody get out of her carseat. And yes, she's strapped in properly, the straps are tight etc. She's just houdini. I've just bought a clip thing to put over the buckle which will hopefully keep her in coz I am sick of having to pull over to put her back in her carseat.
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I had a similar experience as Megans Mum. While driving down a double laned road I pulled up next to a small car. The young woman sitting in the passengers seat was nursing a baby!!
They looked foreign (european/middle eastern?? hard to say?) She was sitting with her foot on the dash and like everyone in Christchurch they were travelling about 60kmh.
I was so angry I was shaking On the day I left my cell at home as well!! I took the plate number and luckily there was a policeman giving a boy racer a ticket about 200m up the road. I gave him the details and left it in his hands. Hopefully he did something about it!!




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*555 every time. No hesitation. Sorry, I don't buy the line that it's the parents choice to strap their children in or not.
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Recently in a newspaper article in South Africa there was a dad who took his 1 year old and his daughter (a little bit older) in their car and they drove from one place to another on their farm. The kids opened the door, fell out, he drove over them and they died.

They were not strapped in, doors did not have kiddy locks on or anything. The mom ended up saying that "the devil opened the door on that day", but the truth is that this could have been avoided. An accident happens so quickly and you might not get a second chance.
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*555, I never knew there was a number you could call ! is it specifically for matters like this ? thats handy to know, because I have needed to call on a few occasions


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*555 is brilliant - and free. You can use it to report any traffic related incidents. I have reported a couple of cases like this, debris on the motorway, loose dogs on the motorway, as well as a drunk driver (they actually called me back about the drunk driver to let me know they were prosecuting).
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Originally posted by Gardengirl Gardengirl wrote:

*555 every time. No hesitation. Sorry, I don't buy the line that it's the parents choice to strap their children in or not.

I'll reiterate - I don't condone this, one little bit.
But it is their choice (unless they're little Houdinis like Chiara ) - as wrong as it may be.
(edited to add:) The same way someone chooses to drive above the speed limit, or rob a bank.
It doesn't mean it's right (or legal).

Didn't mean it to sound insensitive or callous

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Yep totally agree don't hesitate to complain! My brother was killed almost 2 years ago - and sadly he went thru a back side window no seatbelt. Every day is hard so please remember belt up!
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*555 is good for any sorts of stupidity on the road!

But WTF....how could you not strap your kids in. I know it frustrated the hell out of me when Alia could get her arms out. I had many stop starts journey's until she learnt.

So one said it's the parents choice...granted but it's against the law too!
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Originally posted by Aliasmum Aliasmum wrote:

So one said it's the parents choice...granted but it's against the law too!

Originally posted by MamaPickle MamaPickle wrote:

..it doesn't mean it's right (or legal)



I've programmed *555 into my phone now

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When we came over here McKayla was still in a capsule. It was one of those you can use until 13 kg or 15 months. She was 10 months old when we arrived here. She got out once and stood up and gave us such a fright. We thought it was a once off thing. Until she did it the next day as well. (she was still backward facing at this stage). That same day we bought another carseat to put her in. Wasnt about to take chances.

Although I would have loved to had her backward facing until 2 years it was just not meant to be.



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Mamapickle, I didn't think you sounded insensitive or callous at all

But if it's the parents choice to choose whether or not to strap their children in then it's their choice in the same way, for example, that it's their choice to leave them home alone. As in, it's NOT their choice at all, they are legally (and morally) obliged to do certain things to ensure the children in their care are kept safe.
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Oh, I don't dispute that at all. It's awful, isn't it?

But, unfortunately, there are people out there who choose to openly flout the law and throw all morals out the window at the expense of their children




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