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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 8:09pm |
I think there are ECE on here. I am currently thinking about a change of career and doing ECE has been something I have been thinking about for ages. It seems that doing a graduate dip in ECE is probably my best option (I have a BBS) and I have worked out that I would be able to do it part-time and off campus, but am trying to work out when is the best timing for me to do it.
so......my questions are.
Is there much opportunity to do part-time work in ECE? (if I started studying I would prefer to work part-time for a while after I graduate and then later on full-time).
Has anyone done the graduate dip and what institute did you go through? what were your thoughts on the degree?
If I do a graduate dip part-time it will take 2 years, would I be able to work at a daycare centre before I graduate?
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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 8:44pm |
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I have...and I did it through CCE(now it' all changed) but I grad in 2004.... I would assume ACE would do it?
Down here I haven't come across many part time jobs... I have seen a few but not many.. I did centre based so I worked (they suggest only 2 days but financially most do 4) and one day at uni.. and it was really hard to work 4 days and study! I'm glad I did it.(and if i had a supportive workplace at the time might have helped:) )
in 2004 you could work before you graduated but lots of places only take trained teachers now.. though the rule is half of all teachers have to be trained but I think all have to be in training.... any other questions feel free to ask:) (I did Bachelor of Ed at CCE then finished at ACE and then Grad Dip of Teaching and Learning at CCE (Christchurch college of Education)
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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 8:45pm |
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if you have a passion for it i say go for it!:)
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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 8:57pm |
Not a teacher but have worked for a university. Most places will only let you do the Grad Dip ECE if you have a primary teaching degree, so you may need to check that out with who ever you want to study through. I have worked for Massey and know that is the case there. If you want any info on the Massey teaching degrees and grad dips PM your question and i will answer then for you the best I can.
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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 9:02pm |
thanks Foxy. may be a silly question but what CCE and ACE stand for?
Becks- yeah I have checked with Massey and these only applies to people with a teaching degree, but Auck & Waikato (I haven't looked into the other unis yet) are open to anyone with a bachelor. its a bit of pain coz I got my BBS from massey so looked into studying with them again, but oh well.
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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 9:06pm |
If you can do it, you will need to make sure you have a copy of your academic record (the one you have to buy from Massey) ready for when you apply as you will need to apply to study with Equifilant Status and that can take a long time (6 weeks or longer) to have done.
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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 9:17pm |
Aut in northcote runs a good programme, I work in EC on the shore and there is heaps of opportunity for work part time, with the teacher shortage coming people will take some one part time who is qualified rather than have no one at all..
feel free to pm me if you have any questions..
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Posted: 23 November 2008 at 9:19pm |
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also forgot to say even when AUT says their study is full time, full time on that programme is only 2 days a week, this allows flexibility for people who need to work while they study, and for parents too
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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 8:05am |
 Mum2Ella wrote:
thanks Foxy. may be a silly question but what CCE and ACE stand for?
Becks- yeah I have checked with Massey and these only applies to people with a teaching degree, but Auck & Waikato (I haven't looked into the other unis yet) are open to anyone with a bachelor. its a bit of pain coz I got my BBS from massey so looked into studying with them again, but oh well. |
CCE-Christchurch College of Education...and ACE Auckland College of Education
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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 8:06am |
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I had to get my study done by the thing mummybecks mentioned..did take forever to get assessed and re done but mine was quite a special case..
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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 8:27am |
I'm an ECE teacher, I trained in Aussie though, then studied extramurally through CCE for 1 year to get the NZ Dip in ECE
I know here in the Waikato there is such a need for qualified teachers, as I'm sure there is around the country and there are a lot of students who work part-time in centres while studying.
I will be returning to work part-time in 2009, and even though most jobs advertised are full-timepart-time jobs are out there
It is such a rewarding career. I say GO FOR IT! 
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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 9:04am |
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Just a thought Jillian. The PC diploma is NZQA recognised & is free
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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 10:53am |
thanks for the advice. Will definitely look into AUT (for some reason when I think of AUT i think of the city campus and completely forget about the northcote one). 2 days a week sounds about right, coz I will still be working part-time.
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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 1:04pm |
Depending on where you are lots of places are pretty desperate for qualified teachers so I wouldn't think finding part time work would be too hard after you graduate. They might not advertise for them, but just apply for full time jobs and go along to the interview and ask for part time (or just ring places up and ask if they have any relieving/part time work).
And although they are after qualified staff - lots of places will employ you if you are in training or have an agreement that you will start training in the next 6 months or whatever. Or you could always do in-home care while you're studying 
Some places will also pay for your study if you agree to work for them for a period of time after you graduate. There are also a few scholorships you should look into, and if you're working (either at a centre or doing in home care) you may be able to get an incentive grant. (look at teachnz, ministry of ed, and studylink websites...)
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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 1:57pm |
Oh yes, forgot about the incentive grant (which I got) and the teachNZ allowances/scholarships (2 of the girls I work with, got this)
Good luck!
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Posted: 24 November 2008 at 2:00pm |
Just a note on the part time thing... legally centres/schools don't have to advertise nationally for part time teachers though they do for full time ones, so that's why you rarely see part time positions advertised. Best advice is word of mouth will get you in to that sort of thing, and always stay in contact with the centres you have placements at
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Posted: 29 November 2008 at 8:29pm |
Just came across this post... I am an ECE teacher and have been an associate teacher to students who have done this - have a degree in something and then gone on to do ECE.
Awesome we need teachers huge shortage in Auckland! Especially those who want to work in ECE!!!
Just like everyone said there is heaps of work, part time or full and you can pretyy much chosse your hours.
From what i know the AUT grad dip is a good one.
Good Luck ! Yah another ECE teacher!! 
Have you thought of doing in home childcare??
Pm me if you have any questions
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Posted: 30 November 2008 at 12:02pm |
thanks guys. Its good to hear that it would be possible to get part-time work.
At the moment am thinking that I might try and find a course to start midway through next year and ask at Ellas daycare if I can do a couple of volunteer days there just to make sure that I am 100% sure that this is what I want to do- plus I figure it would help my application and I might be able to use them for a reference.
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Posted: 30 November 2008 at 4:59pm |
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That is a good idea to volunter M2E. Have you also considered primary? Might just pay to look into that too, as you often get people training for one when it is the other they really wanted (but didn't realise) . Primary is a one year full time course for people with a degree, not sure what it is part time though.
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