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caliandjack 
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 Posted: 09 November 2009 at 1:34pm |
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AmStaff seeing as you are over 20 doesn't that make you eligible for entry as an adult?
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 1:37pm |
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when i trained it was great grades then straight in ... or interview and like a reading test thing with the kids and then in.. (over 20)
ECe definitely does not have pay parity..it is a little confusing because people mix up kindy teachers with ECE teachers but they aren't the same. Kindy teachers do get pay parity but ECE do not...and I got nothing like 20 an hour when i was teaching and I have a degree(bachelor of ed primary ) and a Graduate Diploma Teaching and Learning (ECE)
men still have to fit criteria but they do generally get in ....it's like 1% for ECE teachers for men..which sucks..even in my primary class we had 5 men 3 of whom dropped out..ECE we had none:(
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 1:44pm |
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AmStaff seeing as you are over 20 doesn't that make you eligible for entry as an adult? |
She can get entry to the university, but not entry to the specific course, some, like ECE have additional requirements.
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 1:46pm |
Oh yeah LF I forgot you can do the uni papers too to get the degree in centre-based training (its just that a lot down here don't because they want to study the easiest way and don't look at the bigger picture ie. $$ down the track).
Definitely not pay parity at all, but you don't teach any level for the money 
I don't know anyone that had to do the pre-course for primary (which has just slightly higher requirements to get into if I remember correctly). I had people aged from 17-45 in my class - the older people who had been out of training for a while had to do a 12-week study skills course but thats it.
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 2:20pm |
summerlamb wrote:
mrsg1 wrote:
AmStaff seeing as you are over 20 doesn't that make you eligible for entry as an adult? |
She can get entry to the university, but not entry to the specific course, some, like ECE have additional requirements. |
Yeah...what she said. LOL 
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 2:26pm |
It's all very blimmin' confusing actually.
You can do it this way, but only if you've done this and this. Or you could do it this way but that means you've got to do this and that. OR you could do this, but then you got to do this, this and this. And if that doesn't work then try THIS.
I feel like the yellow humhum bird. Flying around in ever decreasing circles until I disappear up me own bum 
I wonder if Massey offers a course on how to figure out how to study your choice of qualification. Thats probably a 3 year course in itself. GOODNESS!
Actually I shouldn't say Massey cause of all the providers I've looked at, their layout makes more sense than any of them. Well at least I think it does.
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 3:32pm |
AmStaff wrote:
summerlamb wrote:
mrsg1 wrote:
AmStaff seeing as you are over 20 doesn't that make you eligible for entry as an adult? |
She can get entry to the university, but not entry to the specific course, some, like ECE have additional requirements. |
Yeah...what she said. LOL |
I think it depends on the provider .. Auckland University wont let you onto the ECE without additional requirements (as an adult), but Auckland Institute of Tech and Unitec will both let you onto the degree course as an adult without any additonal requirements except an interview.
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 4:27pm |
Definately depends on the provider. Like I was tryign to say on previous page, I didn't meet the entry requirements but still got in when I was 19. Apply, or call them, I'm sure they can answer your questions better than anyone on here.
I don't t think I will ever understand the difference between ECE and Kindy! Is it different training? I am applying for post grad ECE at the moment....but I dont want to settle for less pay!!
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 5:21pm |
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no different training between working in a kindy and working in a daycare. If you are qualifed with a diploma or degree or post grad you can work in either also need to be provisionally registarted to work in Kindy, but you need that in daycare as well.
Some daycares are slack about teacher registration but as soon as you qualify apply for prov registration it takes 2 years working in a centre/ kindy under an advice and guidance programme supervised by a fully qualifed and registrated teacher to gain full teachers registration.
In kindy you get paid more because the union had fought hard over the years to strive for pay parity with primary. the pay is really good, but the hours, workload - paper work can be a lot depends on the kindy.
If you want to look at contracts and pay go to the unions website nzei.org.
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 6:09pm |
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amstaff - I have just completed my first semester with massey doing the certificate in early years education extramurally, then I plan on going on to do the bachelor in ed.
I got direct entry in the certificate with being 27. I have 3 kids, 14mth old, almost 5yr old and a 3.5yr old.
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 8:26pm |
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Hey I am studyn at the mo to, my course will take me 3 years and i do it all online, apart from 2 block courses a year which are a sun/mon.
I also work in a centre 2 days a week which I love as I get to be with my children who also go there.
I find doing it online works really well for me as we have chat rooms and stuff so we can get help that way.
I am doing my course through New Zealand Tertiary college
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 9:06am |
Milo1 wrote:
no different training between working in a kindy and working in a daycare. If you are qualifed with a diploma or degree or post grad you can work in either also need to be provisionally registarted to work in Kindy, but you need that in daycare as well.
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you dont all have to be registered yet in ECE but it is moving that way.. you get provisional as soon as you grad and then go from there.. there are quite a few differences to kindy and ECE... for the teacher esp ratios etc.. as milo says though you need to be registered the same as you would be if you were a primary teacher... I did post grad ece and if i was registered i could be a kindy teacher(but didnt want to be in kindy) and also harder to get kindy jobs..
ECE only moved to having most staff trained 2 years ago.. but they will eventually require all staff to have registration.. my last employer wouldnt pay for it and i didnt have the money so i was stuck halfway through:(
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 11:10am |
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KA - primary teachers have to pay for registration all the time, ECE is pretty lucky with that most of the time.
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 11:15am |
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Emz, I think it depends on your school in regards to paying for registration.
DH (primary teacher) has never paid for his registration. I am in secondary teaching and only paid for my prov registration but after that my school has paid for it.
I am guessing ECE centres would be the same.
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 11:57am |
Hmm sounds confusing....
Carin, maybe you could start taking bubs to Playcentre and do some study through them since its free and you can do it round baby and just get a feel for it - see if you enjoy it?? Thats what I did last year and found it wasn't particularly for me coz while I loved kids gorwing up I've changed since having my own and don't enjoy other peoples brats anymore 
You wouldn't wana go straight into study with a newborn anyway I don't think - I tried that and it was bloody hard work!!!
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Posted: 10 November 2009 at 12:05pm |
OK I can help you alot as I have worked at Massey and at the College of Education and had a lot to do with the pre selection of the teaching programmes.
I will PM you with some info for you.
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