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Jay_R 
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 Posted: 27 February 2008 at 10:59am |
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But isn't not using contraception one of the "big rules" of Catholicism? Or have things changed since I last brushed up on my Catechism?
But I think your analogy re the school with rules is a good way of putting things.
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The_Stuarts
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 11:14am |
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Yeah, it is. The church believes that sex and procreation should not be separated and that those having sex should be open to creating new life. For that reason they don't believe in artificial forms of contraception but birth control methods such as natural family planning are ok.
nb. I would be happy to use the NFP method but my DH doesn't trust it "no glove no love" is his mantra.
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 11:16am |
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p.s. I'd be even happier not to be using anything birth control method at all. I'd love to be barefoot and preggers with a clan of little Stuarts running round my ankles. Still trying to convince DH though.
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 11:26am |
Ah, there's a good Catholic girl 
Every sperm is sacred.....
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Andie
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 1:42pm |
Man, this is an interesting topic, Liz! And I'm loving hearing people's thoughts on it.
Someone mentioned being basically 'in' or 'out', either living by all the doctrine of your religion or not claiming to belong to a religion at all (sorry - I can't remember how you worded it but it was more eloquent than my attempt!). My two cents on that is that I sometimes wonder how much of the guilt people feel for not 'following the rules' is bought about by other people's opinions, not by the guidelines of their faith. Find me one perfectly good christian... just one, who follows every 'rule' and guideline and doesn't put a foot outside of the guidelines of their faith, and I'll be convinced that it's the "second coming" and Jesus himself is walking about on this earth!
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 1:49pm |
...so either every person who calls themselves a christian is being two-faced about it, or christianity is a faith with room in it for us still to be only human. That's the way I see my faith. But there's people who like the simplicity and security or having rules to follow, and that works for some people. My conviction in my faith is strong, and it's based around a God who I believe loves us ALL dearly no matter what, and around wanting to treat others with the respect, dignity, honesty and compassion that Jesus treated people with.
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 1:50pm |
I don't follow a religion or faith or whichever word you choose to use. I have been to church once in my life  for a service and once for a funeral.
But one of my friends grew up in an extreme catholic home and the stories I've heard her tell me over the years amazes me. She was booted out of home at 16 for dating a guy who wasn't "catholic" enough for her family because they didn't want her to bring the wrath of god down on their family or some such rubbish. That's just one example of the nutty behaviour they forced upon her and her brother. They have disowned her for not following her religion to the letter.
I really "dislike" people who do that type of thing to their kids and I'm not saying anyone on here does.
We will let Daniel choose if and when he wants to. We aren't going to take him to church unless he specifically asks us to.
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 2:08pm |
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Kebakat that's awful for your friend. Those are the type of people that put others off religion! and quite simply I think it shows that their hypocrits. Jesus taught us to treat others as we wish to be treated, to love thy neighbour and that there is only one who can judge us. As someone said earlier though people each interpret things differently.
My parents tried "tough love" on me and threatened to disown me when they found out I was dating my flatmate (now my DH who I've been with for 11 years) but backed down pretty quickly when they realised it wouldn't work on me. We still had issues over it for several years and it really hurt at the time especially when my dad said he wouldn't walk me down the eisle because he didn't agree with the way we'd been living prior to marriage (and they refused to put in any $$$ for our wedding even though they'd given both of my sisters $10k each and one of my sisters already had a child by a different man when she got married to her now ex-husband).
That was awful but I also believe in forgiveness and turning the other cheek and I know my parents were only trying to do what they thought was right. We're really close now and my DH is easily the favourite SIL.
p.s. I think that Faith is my relationship with God and my belief while Religion is the group, organisation or denomination I associate with. Even when I didn't go to church I still had faith.
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