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Katherine
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Topic: How do you hang on to your sense of self? Posted: 16 October 2007 at 5:53pm |
As I write this, there's a tantruming toddler hanging on to my sleeve and wailing...
How do you, as a mother, maintain your identity and hang on to your sense of self? Contemporary mothering is fraught with the expectation for mums to be everything to everyone, surrendering their own identities in order to concentrate on their children. Overwhelming responsibility is placed on mothers to raise their children the "right" way, even though nobody agrees on what "right" means. So what do you do to keep from turning into a Mummy Martyr? Do you struggle with all of the conflicting beliefs surrounding motherhood, and are you trying to forge your own path? Most of all, what do you do to remember yourself when the role of "mother" seems to take over?
I'm writing an article on this issue for an upcoming newsletter, in order to give inspiration and common ground to others who may be dealing with similar thoughts. Post your experiences in here and I'll put you in the draw to win a great new book from HarperCollins: Well-Being: An Essential Guide to Vibrant Good Health for Women, by Lynda Wharton.
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nikkitheknitter
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 5:57pm |
I'll be back to this soon... but short answer, you don't. I'm pretty sure you have to wait until you kick them out when they are 18.
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 6:41pm |
I don't know how to maintain my sense of womanhood.
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:05pm |
It's funny that you have said that. Just last night I was lying in bed trying to think of what defines me and I'm not sure I was able to come up with anything at all.
Pre babies I was a singer/songwriter and whenever I felt I needed to get back to 'me' I would write a song or at least a few lyrics. Since having kids I haven't written in years but when I have tried I go absolutely blank and can think of nothing but the housework that needs doing or that I really should pre enroll Chloe at school and Miya at kindy. I also have a love for animals and wish to work with them, however since being put on bed rest during my first pregnancy all my studies were put on...indefinately and by the time my first daughter was born affording to continue my vocal training was impossible.
It seems now all that I can say I may defined as is a stay at home wife and mother, although I love my family dearly and I am proud to be a wife and mother it isn't really who I am.
I got up this morning and decided to start doing something for me or to help find my sence of self again, so I have applied for a corrospondance course in animal care. And now I am so proud of myself for taking that first step!
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:07pm |
For me, it's not so much trying to hold on to the "me that was" but understanding that being a mother is now part of my identity - although not all, otherwise I'll have nothing to live for when I'm old! (Don't wanna be the proverbial MIL!  )
So even when I'm with my kids, part of "me" is to still help out my friends when I can. I've found that a cooked dinner can go a long way whether a friend has a new baby or has been to a funeral that day. And I'm now "experienced" enough  that I can start offering advice etc - most of my friends have 1yos.
I don't have many friendships outside of mothering, to be honest I often find it hard to connect with people who are single or single-married (married without kids), especially if they have no plans/hopes for having a family. I'm on such a different wavelength from them! But so long as I can still chat and vent with my coffee group ladies (including the Nov mums coffee group on OB  ) and I have regular time with my DH as just husband & wife, not always about the kids, then I feel satisfied.
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:12pm |
At this very moment, I have no sense of self, I'm totally 100% consumed by my family and their needs/wants.
I struggle with this alot at the moment.
The only time that I feel "normal" is when I am away from them; whether it be that I take an extra long shower, or I walk down to Onehunga on my own or it's when they are all in bed asleep. I don't feel like I have an identity some days my role in this family is to be mother, wife and slave.
I'd give anything for them to be able to think for themselves.
I'm doing this mother thing by instinct. I didn't realise or remember feeling this alone (being a SAHM), my days are long, lonely and quiet and I try to go out once a week for coffee or to the library, I guess that's me trying to be me and not "mummy" even though I'm pushing a stroller while doing that.
I have no idea if I answered your questions correctly, just typed what came to me...
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:24pm |
.Mel, I can understand where you are coming from, and I know a lot of other mothers who will also relate to what you have said. And Helen21, I am really interested to know that you are going to do some study as a way of rediscovering who you are -- that is what I do too!
I think I'm most interested in how women who are mothers maintain the non-mother part of their identity -- I don't mean to imply that you have to exclude "mother" from your sense of self, but I want to hear what ELSE makes you tick, and how do you nurture that? How do you make time for it? This is the "buried deep inside" stuff, which we all have somewhere, the stuff that tends to get pushed to the back as the demands and pressures of motherhood come to the forefront of our everyday activities. Are you able to pull that stuff out and make it a priority? Or are you feeling totally consumed by motherhood and want very much to get some sense of self back, and you don't quite know how?
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:25pm |
For many reasons I have been struggling with this and thinking about it a lot lately! I think our mothers were probably bought up knowing that once they got married, they then had kids and your lot was to stay at home and have no further expectations. But then something changed in that time and we were then brought up to believe we could (and should) have it all - the perfect 'equal' marriage/partnership, house, babies and career!
I personally would be quite happy to stay at home in a full-time mothering role and be a domestic goddess! However the career I have chosen does not allow for an absence of over 3 years without retraining (and even within that time you still have to do 120 hours 'professional deverlopment' in your own time). Along with that the financial pressures of payng a mortgage and just everyday living, mean I work a few days a month. It is expected that I will return to work - the questions are never if, but when. In some ways those few days of work are great as I get out of the house by myself knowing Hannah is being looked after by her dad (which in turn is good for them), and I get to be the me I used to be pre-kids, but really I like the mum version of me better.
I really love doing all the fun things like play dates and music every week, and now that Hannah is older and starting to play more with me she is lots more fun. But, it can be so incredibly boring day in day out - how many times can you read Hairy Maclary in one day?! I actually find its the overall running of the house that gets me down (the constant washing and cleaning etc) rather than actually being a mum.
Ways I try and stay ME are to do things with Hannah that I enjoy (at her level), like baking and craft activities. She goes to bed early at night so I have the whole evening from 6.30 to do non-kid stuff. The husband and I try to have a nice dinner and chat by ourselves after she has gone to bed once a week. We dance to MY music sometimes, not always kids songs. Before I was preggy this time I was playing badminton one night a week like I used to.
And last of all (that I can think of) is going to see other mums with kids cos at least then you know that everyone else is in the same boat!!
Sorry for a big long waffle but I've been thinking about this a lot lately...
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:55pm |
I think about this a lot too. In my husband's family (maori/cook island) the grandparents have a LOT more to dso with the raising of kids - to the point where quite a few parents will leave the kids with the grandparents for months at a time. I find this horrifying to tell the truth. i would adore some time out, but spending all that time without my kids? strange. as for taking aholiday around the world, why would I do this without my children? and if I couldn't because they were too young or expensive or whatever, then i just wouldn't go. I love being a mum.
as for the pressure - i find ohbaby really good for REAL life mums expressing the same concerns and admitting the same things. i mean, you feel sooooo guilty and bad mum when you drop your kid - until you find out that countless others have done the same thing. you feel guilty about wanting some time out, until realising that everyone else feels the same. i find confessing my thoughts on ohbaby really helps me realise that being a "real mum" isn't what we see on tv (or hear from our mils).
One huge thing that helped me overcome the "super mum"complex was in January when both boys were admitted into hospital having trouble breahing, and then i realised that what i felt was important, really wasn't.
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:57pm |
Me, I, myself? Me do everything backwards- life should be backwards. Starting out as a rich old person & ending up as a baby helpless & unsuspecting
I keep it simple & just do what i gotta do, to the best that i know how. I have never been a Mother to a 2.75yr & a 3.2mnths old; my marvellous boys. And the boys have never been boys before..
So its all a big learning curve for all of us & a great opportunity to change, for the best, or for now anyway
Making yourself feel special is how i do it. LOL I love myself haha. Modest aye?
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 8:13pm |
I work. Sounds stupid I know, but the sole reason I work is to maintain my sense of identity. And yes my work and my role as a mum are undeniably intertwined, but without the creative outlet that my writing affords I would be lost.
I think the thing I struggle with is that I am not a natural mother. I truly believe that some people are born to be mothers, my mum is one of them, she was perfectly happy and content to be a SAHM with four kids and throw herself into the committees and school trips and tuck shop duties etc. I am the complete opposite. I get bored very quickly and whilst I love playing with my kids and watching them learn, I have a very short attention span. Taking on outside work that I can do from home allows me to have the best of both worlds. I can work without worrying about the impact that will have on them, and I often pop out of my office to see the gremlins while I am working, sometimes I watch them when they don't know I'm watching and they are just so damn cute, but the time away from them makes me appreciate so much more the time that I do have with them.
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 8:14pm |
I love that you love yourself, Glow -- because I think that's sorely missing for a lot of mums. Mothers can spend so much time loving and nurturing everyone else that they forget about themselves totally. How do you other mums make sure to love yourself? Or, as Oprah would put it, how do you remember your spirit?
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 8:41pm |
will write tomorrow will have to think about this one
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 8:44pm |
I do one thing for myself each day, which is having a soak in the bath, love it. If I didn't have a bath tub I would go out of my mind.
I have a very blokey kinda job, I'm an Electrician, so for me it has been nice to make friends with women and to talk about something other than fart jokes lol.
I really love being a SAHM but unfortunately for us we are in a position financially where I have no choice but to go back to work. In some ways I am looking forward to it but in many ways i'm not and would much rather be at home (for at least a little bit longer anyway).
I feel that I am able to retain a sense of self now that I have my evenings baby free, it gives me time to work on my hobby business, making jewellery, to spend time with DH, if he's not on lates, or to just blob out in front of the TV or spend all night on here
I find that staying in touch with friends and co workers is also a good way, I purposely try not to bore them with too much cooing over my baby and to to talk about all the things I had to talk about before having a baby.
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Posted: 16 October 2007 at 10:27pm |
didnt you ask this once before too??? or do i have mummy brain?
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Posted: 17 October 2007 at 8:12am |
I probably did, but now I'm writing an article so it's an official "ask"! Besides, there's a prize involved this time! 
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Posted: 17 October 2007 at 8:47am |
Glow wrote:
Me, I, myself? Me do everything backwards- life should be backwards. Starting out as a rich old person & ending up as a baby helpless & unsuspecting
I keep it simple & just do what i gotta do, to the best that i know how. I have never been a Mother to a 2.75yr & a 3.2mnths old; my marvellous boys. And the boys have never been boys before..
So its all a big learning curve for all of us & a great opportunity to change, for the best, or for now anyway |
I agree with Glow.
I like the new me, the "working Mum" much better than the “its all about me” I was before.
I like that fact that I make sure any time I get with Caitlin is quality time and as a result of that I get to watch her grow and achieve things of her own, things we have learnt together. Everyday she teaches me something new about myself (not all good I’ll admit). So for me, my “me time” I’d like to think I put to good use making my new self even better and working on the ever changing skills of a Mum.
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Posted: 17 October 2007 at 9:11am |
busymum wrote:
For me, it's not so much trying to hold on to the "me that was" but understanding that being a mother is now part of my identity |
You know what, I've never thought of it that way. Makes a lot of sense.
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