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ok - this is the last thing i am going to say on this...

i do not think that ms muliaga herself expected that she would die because the power was cut off and that would be why no ambulance was called... she prob knew that waiting till her husband came home and could help her was the best option...the lack of the machine alone would not have killed her.

Ms muliaga did not die purely because the power was cut off. However she did die and the whole situation could have been handled better by mercury, the contractor, the media and the family.

a minutes silence at the markets was a nice gesture i thought...saying no ones power will be cut off if they dont pay the bill is not. its like saying we wont repo your car if you dont pay for it, or no its alright you can take the appliances from the store and dont have to make any payments.

once again we dont know all the facts, assuming we do is making asses(of u and me).

oops its late - night night all.    
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well from the article I read this morning she was almost living on borrowed time, and it suggested she had stopped taking her doctor perscribed medicines and was seaking alternative Samoan traditional treatments. The machine was not there to keep her alive, it was to assist her breathing.

I start to feel that this had nothing at all to do with the power being disconnected (though it may have sped things up a little)
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seriously, what happens to those machines if there is a power cut?
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Originally posted by lizzle lizzle wrote:

seriously, what happens to those machines if there is a power cut?


my mum has one similar and if it stops working (she uses it overnight) she would slip into a coma ... and if left would die.

(oops, i said i wasnt going to post anymore..)
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They dont work if there is no power lizzle? (well I didn't work out were to put the batteries in my Mums one anyways & it was exactly the same as Mrs Muliaga's)

Depending on how much she needed it & her circumstances she may or may not of received portable oxygen tanks. Which is just a tank you attach the "nose hose" to get your oxygen & its easier to manoeuvre around & doesn't need power.

We will never know the whole story will we..

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Originally posted by gandt gandt wrote:

Originally posted by lizzle lizzle wrote:

seriously, what happens to those machines if there is a power cut?


my mum has one similar and if it stops working (she uses it overnight) she would slip into a coma ... and if left would die.

(oops, i said i wasnt going to post anymore..)


ooops, not very good at answering a question obviously. i dont even know if mums has a battery backup. and certainly no tanks anywhere in her house.
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Originally posted by Sarah Beth Sarah Beth wrote:

well from the article I read this morning she was almost living on borrowed time, and it suggested she had stopped taking her doctor perscribed medicines and was seaking alternative Samoan traditional treatments. The machine was not there to keep her alive, it was to assist her breathing.

I start to feel that this had nothing at all to do with the power being disconnected (though it may have sped things up a little)


I've been wondering if it wasn't the machine failing that caused her heart attack, but maybe the stress of the whole situation...
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ok now i am confused as in one report it said in the contractors statement he noticed she did have a nose hose in at the time of the power disconnection and she never mentioned a medical reason not to disconnect now if thats only for the portable air tanks then would it not imply she had one? Did she die of natural causes relating to her medical condition but the family were angry and decided to take it out on the first place they thought they could get money?

Just a theory though but to be honest the more i hear the less i believe the family. Man Mercury needs to grow some balls.
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i dont think that the nose hose is just for the tanks.
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"Nose Hoses" go to the machine as well as tanks.
Machine gets plugged in & power supplies oxygen
Tanks don't need power- just a "Nose Hose" to plug into to get the oxygen. If that make sense.

Cant help thinking about "Nana Nose Hose"(tis what my Son called my Mother) Smiling & crying at the same time. AS i can hear him saying "Look ouut nans nose hose dear" We were forever tripping over the darn thing lol A special memory i have of my son & mother that i'd thought i'd share.

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I haven't read all the comments but I think the only thing I can ask is:

Is this tragedy a reflection on Mercery Energy and thier operating procedures or poverty in NZ and not knowing where/when/how to get assistance?

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very interesting editorial in the sunday star times about this very issue tonight. loved it.
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Originally posted by Paws Paws wrote:

I haven't read all the comments but I think the only thing I can ask is:

Is this tragedy a reflection on Mercery Energy and thier operating procedures or poverty in NZ and not knowing where/when/how to get assistance?


Again a tricky one, taking into account the cultural issues, many of the polynesian cultures are proud, hardworking people who would be embarrassed to seek assistance. I wonder if there was less of a stigma attached to the whole "WINZ" thing, would it make them more open to it.

Then again, would it make even easier those that are not so proud and rather fond of a hand out to use the system?

Argh, this fence post is getting uncomfy, but I just can't pick a side
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Emma next time try to pick a fence which doesn't have barbed wire
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you know what else is really sad? the fact that the contractor, who my dad works with who is a really nice guy, being seen as such a villian.
The fact that he actually came to the house and told them he had to cut off their power shows he cared, most contractors would just cut off the power with out telling you.

If you had one of those machines that was so important, pay your bill.
And if those machines are going to be given out , they really need to have ones that run on batteries so in case of power cuts this doesnt happen again.

Im sorry, but im getting really sick of the effing media acting like my dad and his work mates are evil, yeah it was a bad call, also bad was the sons decision not to call the ambulance-sorry but pride or no pride-use your head...
Im sure winz or the church or the family spokesman could have steppd up and helped
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i meant help with the st johns bill

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