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  | katie1   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Car Seats - Front facing? Posted: 05 November 2007 at 7:56pm
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   Hi 
I remember a while ago a post on here about when to change car seats from rear to front facing.  Oliver has just turned one but I haven't turned him around yet.  I vaguely remember people saying it was best to wait even longer as it is safer.
 I have done a quick search for the thread but can't find it.  Does anyone else remember.
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  | busymum   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 05 November 2007 at 8:21pm | 
 
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   It's law to rear-face until 6 months. Plunket recommend it from 6-12 months also, until they have good neck control (in the event of sudden braking etc). From there it's really a personal choice thing. Just watch that his legs aren't cramped up as a result of rear-facing (depends on his length and type of car seat).
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  | mummy_becks   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 05 November 2007 at 9:28pm | 
 
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   If he is happy still being rear facing keep him like that. I'm keeping Josh rear facing for as long as I can. | 
 
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     I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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  | pepsi   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 05 November 2007 at 9:33pm | 
 
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   It also depends on the carseat too I think... Alyssa is 15 months old and only just 10kgs and still rear facing cause her carseat says she should be rear facing until 16kgs... whereas the carseat my mum has for her is ok forward facing now..
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  | AnnC   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 05 November 2007 at 10:02pm | 
 
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   I have just turned Rhyley around - he was starting to moan being rear facing and hes loving seeing me when I am driving - I also love the fact I can see him now.
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  | Jennz   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 2:41am | 
 
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   The longer you can leave them rear facing the better- it is so much safer for them.
The importance of rear facing | 
 
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  | Katherine   Newbie
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 9:35am | 
 
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   Our child restraint expert, Bonnie Smith, wrote a couple of articles for the site about child restraint safety and she addresses the issue of front-facing. Here's some of the information from one of her articles (http://www.ohbaby.co.nz/article.aspx?ContentID=1301): "One of the biggest and most confusing issues surrounding infants and young babies and safety in the car is rear-facing. Rear-facing for as long as possible is recommended as it reduces the risk of serious neck or spinal cord injury, resulting in paralysis or death. "When rear-facing, the child has the frontal crash forces spread over their back, head and neck (a large portion of the body) in an accident. The rear-facing child is also supported by the back of the car seat meaning there is little stretching of the neck. When forward-facing, the child's torso is restrained by their harness straps. The head of the child, however, is restrained by nothing and thrusts violently forward, stretching their wee necks. If the neck is stretched too far, the child can suffer serious neck injuries, resulting in life-long paralysis or death. "Whether or not Baby can hold their head up is not an indication that they can be turned to face forward. Likewise, the feet touching the back of the vehicle's seat is not an issue. Young children have immature cervical vertebrae (neck bones) that are not strong enough to protect the spinal cord adequately in an accident when forward-facing in a frontal crash. The vertebrae are still in pieces, joined only by flimsy cartilage (like in your nose). These pieces are soft and have not yet ossified into a complete circle of bone which will enclose and protect the spinal cord. This usually occurs between ages of 3-6, which is why the longer you rear-face, the more time you give for your child’s body to develop to better withstand the intense and violent forces in an accident. "Health and safety organisations from all over the world, including the American Academy of Paediatrics, Safe2Go, Plunket, SafeKids and Land Transport New Zealand, all recommend keeping your child rear-facing for a minimum of one year of age. Wherever possible for optimal protection in an accident, it is recommended to continue rear-facing for as long as possible up to the height and weight limits of the seat." I think that's pretty compelling, so much so that my daughter, who is just about 21 months old, is still rear-facing in her car seat. Her legs are getting a bit long now, but I'm going to see if we can make it a bit longer as the evidence shows it's safer for her -- which gives me peace of mind. 
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  | Mazzy   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 9:42am | 
 
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   I'm going by the weight limit on our car seat, which I think is 12kg rear facing (must double check that).  At 14 months DD is about 10kg so I'm going to leave her rear facing for a while yet.  She seems quite happy!
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  | Maya   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 10:18am | 
 
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   The gremlins are forward facing now, even tho they are only just 9kg each. They were starting to get frustrated with not being able to see anything, and they were getting too long to put in over the back seat so I had to move them into the middle row.
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  | daikini   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 12:31pm | 
 
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   We switched Xavier to forward-facing on Labour Day (about 3 weeks before his first birthday) because our seat was only suitable rear-facing up to 9kg and Xavier is at least 10kg!  If it wasn't for the safety of the seat, however, we would have kept him rear-facing for as long as possible.
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  | Bubbaloo   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 12:46pm | 
 
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   I just turned James around this week has his legs were getting to long for rear facing he loves being able to see everything and watching were we are going.
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  | katie1   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 9:51pm | 
 
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   Thanks so much everyone.  That is a HUGE help.
What would I do without everyone on this site.
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  | katie1   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 9:59pm | 
 
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   OH my gosh Jennz.  Just watched that link.  Very convincing.  Freaked me out.
I just need to check what our car seat says now.  We have a safe n sound one.
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  | emmapea   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 November 2007 at 10:03pm | 
 
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   Yes its definately best to leave bubba's rear facing as long as you can.... I think its a fact not everyone realises is so important!
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  | Jennz   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 November 2007 at 12:37am | 
 
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   I know- those shots of the crash test dummies are pretty scary!
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  | yummymummy   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 November 2007 at 9:16am | 
 
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   We still have Gina in a rear-facing position and plan to for as long as we can. It just seems a lot safer to me.
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  | Jennz   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 November 2007 at 10:06am | 
 
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   We had a safe n sound meridian and it could be rearward up to 12kg.
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