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  | millymollymandy   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Feeding/Sleeping Pattern Posted: 25 January 2010 at 2:49pm
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   Hello All,
 We have reached  6 months on our little journey. To start with DD was a great feeder and sleeper.  She'd  feed  when she  work up, play and happily chirp herself  back to sleep. But now I feel  like I'm over the place.
 
 I found that if I fed when she woke we'd be  feeding so often that  she  wouldn't take a full feed, then she didn't put  on weight much and I'd be exhausted  from constantly trying to feed her.  I  have now stretched out  her  feeds to every 3 1/2 to 4 hours, which  just as she goes  to sleep and oddly she feeds better if she's tired. I have found that she'll feed  somewhere  around 3am and wakes at 7am and is not very hungry, but then is hungry again at  9 when its  time  for  sleep and I spend the whole day trying to keep her up long enough to feed!
 
 She doesn't seem to be able to settle herself to sleep anymore  either and either get feed to sleep or I pat her back and shush her, by the  time this is done her naps are shorter. I think she  is more aware of  everythng.
 
 How can I get her eating more at that  first feed? I have tired compression, feeding  with curtains drawn etc and nothing  works.
 
 Personally I'd  rather not feed  to sleep, but am happy if  it gets her dozy and ready to drift off. I want to teach her that  the cot is  a happy safe place where  she can put herself to sleep. Long term I  don't want her to be dependent on me to get to sleep and I'd love it someone else could put her down.  I beleive  in being caring and loving, but  having her attached to me all day isn't for me, as I need to the space to stay sane.  I don't want to  leave to her to CIO either.
 
 In the mean time I'll just keep trying to  get it all to work and hope that some day it will all come together. Wish me luck. Sorry  this  has become  a rant, I'm tired and rambling.
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  | Mamma2N   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 25 January 2010 at 3:12pm | 
 
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   It definetly does feel exhausting some days doesn't it!?  DD was generally a great self-settler as a young baby although I've always demand-fed so she generally has always fed before bed.  Once she became more aware of her surroundings things changed dramatically.  For me, I've found it easier to just go with the flow - at 10mths she is getting better on the whole but there are still some days where I want to pull my hair out    I'm afraid I don't have any advice - I'm sure someone else will be able to give you some pointers.  Just wanted to say it seems like pretty normal baby behaviour.     Hope you find something that works for you both though    | 
 
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  | RinTinTin   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 25 January 2010 at 4:24pm | 
 
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   Mac is only 6 weeks old so I may be way off the mark here but this is how I do it.
 Wakes, small feed, change, play, feed, sleep.
 
 I either feed to sleep or cuddle him until he's asleep. It may not be what you want to do but I guess it depends on whats most important for you. Unfortunately babies don't always tend to do what we want them to do.
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  | Bizzy   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 25 January 2010 at 4:58pm | 
 
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   if she wakes at 7 have you tried feeding her after about half an hour.  I found with eden that any more than an hour of being up was too much for her right up until she was almost 9 months...
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  | myfullhouse   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 25 January 2010 at 10:41pm | 
 
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   If you are more comfortable with a gentle approach then I would recommend Elizabeth Pantley's "No Cry Sleep Solution"  or Pinky McKay's "Sleeping like a baby" . Both books have been very helpful to me with the various sleeping issues I have had with Jack
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  | millymollymandy   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 January 2010 at 9:00am | 
 
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   Hideous day yesterday. Slept well  from 8.30 to 10.30. Was yawning at 12 so i put her to bed, so was sleepy, but chirped  cot  for an hour then started crying. 
 Couldn't get her back to sleep  so  got her up at 2. tried walking in  buggy at 4 - didn't sleep. bath  at 6 and feed - slept for 10 mins after  each boob.
 
 Drove for 1 hour - slept 30 mins. cried in cot  from 9pm to 10 pm - tired the 5min, 6min etc approach.  put radio  on for static, feed and sushed and  patted till 10.20. feel asleep!!  woke agaon at 12.30 feed and shushed to sleep. Woke at 5.45 feed and shushed to  sleep. up again at 8.  fingers crossed.
 
 today is another day but not liking being parnet right now
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  | Mamma2N   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 January 2010 at 10:03am | 
 
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   No this is my personal experience and what I found the easiest for DD and I.
 Feed whenever she is hungry, not looking at the clock, or what time she last fed - doesn't matter whether it is when she first wakes in the morning or an hour later, whether it is right after lunch, before her sleep - while I'm out and about.  Point is a schedule I found simply did not work.  (I realise it does for some and that's great, but millymollymandy, it sounds like clock-feeding is doing your head in, so perhaps trying a different approach may work).
 At 10mths she still feeds in the night, sometimes sleeping through, but from roughly 6mths onwards I found she had developed her OWN little routine - I let her sort her own body-clock out and every feed, sleep etc happens at roughly the same time.  
 Please don't get me wrong, I certainly have days where I feel like my head is going to explode and tired doesn't even begin to describe how I'm feeling, but they are very few and far between.  
 I haven't read the books myself, but the general idea of 'gentle parenting' advocated in the books that Linzy posted above may be able to assist you.  And trust me it does get better and it is only for a short time in the big scheme of things  
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  | Bizzy   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 January 2010 at 10:13am | 
 
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   i found that clock watching didnt help either...  
 and sometimes too when they look like they are tired they are actually getting over tired.  so when she started to yawn yesterday for instance it may have been half an hour too late.  and once they get over tired it is a hard pattern to break, as you experienced yesterday.
 hopefully you have a better day today though.   | 
 
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  | millymollymandy   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 January 2010 at 12:07pm | 
 
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   Thanks all,
 I definitely think I'm struggling to read her cues at the moment. I have  found that  she sometimes doesn't say she is  hungry (makes a coughing type  noise  when she does), but I'll put her down and  then she'll grizzle as she is hungry.
 
 Today I'm watching her closely and taking it  from there.
 
 On the bright  side I know  I can get through the worst day now! And  as my firend  says  I need to stop beating myself up.
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