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  | bun_in_the_oven   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: EBM bottles - 9 month old Posted: 20 May 2010 at 9:06pm
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   how much does your 9 month old bubs drink in a feed ??
 I can only get 60mls at the most.. sometimes he seems satified and sometimes he wants more..
 
 He is offered the bottle once in the morning before sleep and once in the afternoon before sleep and has b/milk feeds around that..
 
 many thanks
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  | mummymonster   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   DS is FF.  4 x 240ml per day.  I call it finished he gets through 200ml.  He finishes about 3 1/2 a day.
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  | pekay   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 20 May 2010 at 9:11pm | 
 
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   DD10 months has 3 bottles 2x200ml and 1x150mls. 
He must be getting enough booby!
 
 ETA- just realised this is for EBM...DD is FF.
 
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  | Mrs_B   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 20 May 2010 at 9:16pm | 
 
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   My boy was drinking 160-200mls EBM if he is having a bottle when I was away. At 9mths he dropped down to 3 BF's a day.
 Just curious why are you offering bottles?
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  | Nikki   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 20 May 2010 at 9:30pm | 
 
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   Morgan and Jake would both drink about 200-240mls of EBM or formula at that age.  Both were on some BF and some bottles.
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     DS (5yrs) and DD (3yrs)
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  | Mamma2N   Senior Member
 
   
 
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   DD never had more than 100mls of EBM at any one time.  Sometimes would only take half that.  She was/is demand-fed.
 I wouldn't worry unless baby doesn't seem content, very few wet/dirty nappys etc.
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  | bun_in_the_oven   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 May 2010 at 2:12am | 
 
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   i have returned to work part time     Demand feeding here too... usually in am, before morning and afternoon sleep...one around 4pm and then a cluster before bedtime at 7pm
 DS seems content and having a lot of wet nappies through the day ... although hes now waking twice in the nice and only settles again after a feed...Im wondering if its that hes wanting the milk or just having a hard time with all the changes...
 Uuurgghghh this mama is tired tired tired !
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  | Mamma2N   Senior Member
 
   
 
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|  bun_in_the_oven wrote: 
 i have returned to work part time
   Demand feeding here too... usually in am, before morning and afternoon sleep...one around 4pm and then a cluster before bedtime at 7pm
 
 DS seems content and having a lot of wet nappies through the day ... although hes now waking twice in the nice and only settles again after a feed...Im wondering if its that hes wanting the milk or just having a hard time with all the changes...
 
 Uuurgghghh this mama is tired tired tired !
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 Oh dear - there's a very tired mamma in this household too!
 I went back to work parttime when DD was 9mths too.  Funnily enough she started waking in the night again.  Personally I never put it down to her just being hungry, more the changes and her own development, ie she started crawling, then standing, walking etc.  
 Sorry, bad news is she till wakes in the night 5mths later, good news is it's usually only after 4am and maybe a couple of times, compared with hourly at one point, so the current situation is a happy compromise!
 You can certainly try to get more milk/solids into him by offering more often.  I promise this phase will pass.  In the meantime, stock up on loooooooots of coffee    | 
 
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  | E&L+1   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 May 2010 at 8:40am | 
 
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   Hey I returned to work part time when E was 5.5 months old and she refused any bottles when she started daycare. Even now she will only have 80mL at the most in one sitting. She makes up for the missed feed/s at night. Generally only 50-60mL. I emailed LLL and this is what they sent back. 
 "The situation you describe is not uncommon.  Breastfed babies mostly do enjoy the "real thing", and some will happily take to a bottle and drink quite a lot, and others won't be at all interested.  It is normal for breastfed babies to take smaller quantities of EBM than if they had been formula feed, and therefore we usually suggest saving your milk in 50ml lots, as sometimes that is all that will be drunk in one sitting.Babies of all ages can be given EBM via a normal cup, so this could be something to try if the sipper cup is not working that well yet and she continues to refuse the bottle. A cup can sometimes be a little messier than a bottle, but can work well for babies who refuse to suck from the bottle.  Esme would need to be in a more sitting position with the person giving her the cup supporting her and just giving small sips at a time.  Babies (even from birth) tend to lap the milk a bit like a kitten.  Sometimes this works well as it is a different action than at the breast.
 
 It sounds as though Esme has worked out a solution for herself in making up for feeds when she is back with you - this is also quite a common scenario for babies when mothers return to work, or are separated from their babies for a period of time.
 
 I am really glad to hear that expressing is not an issue for you - so do keep that up as it will help maintain your supply when you are away from Esme.
 As Esme starts taking a bit more solids you could even add the expressed milk to her meals - even vegetables can have EBM added.  For at least the first year breast milk is the most important part of her diet, but don't be too worried if she seems to eat a bit more food at daycare and then makes up her breastfeeding while with you (as long as the daycare staff are watching for Esme's cues that she has had enough).  Try to think of her intake over the whole week and I am sure you will see that she is still getting plenty of breast milk.
 
 I am also pleased to hear that you enjoyed reading "My Child Won't Eat".  I feel Dr Gonzalez has a lot of helpful information to share in that book, and as you say it does put your mind at a bit more ease when you feel assured that the way things are is OK.  I think he also mentions in his book that children who are allowed to control their own food intake are much better at doing that as adults, and therefore this helps prevent obesity in adults (as does the fact that she is receiving breast milk).
 
 If you still feel concerned just ask the daycare to keep an eye on the number of wet nappies Esme has while there.  It could be that they also offer her some water at meal times to ensure adequate fluid intake.
 
 ETA itallics
 
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  | Nikki   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 May 2010 at 9:17pm | 
 
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   At 9 months he only needs 3 full milk feeds/day (approx 200mls/feed) and it sounds like hes having about 7 from your post .. so perhaps he is having smaller feeds as hes having so many?
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     DS (5yrs) and DD (3yrs)
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  | bun_in_the_oven   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 May 2010 at 9:30pm | 
 
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   he has 5 feeds a day
 one on waking in the morning
 before am sleep
 before afternoon sleep
 4pm ish
 and bedtime 7pm
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  | Mamma2N   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 May 2010 at 9:54pm | 
 
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|  bun_in_the_oven wrote: 
 he has 5 feeds a day
 
 one on waking in the morning
 before am sleep
 before afternoon sleep
 4pm ish
 and bedtime 7pm
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 So 2-3 of those feeds would be breast?  If so, remember he could be taking alot more than from you than from the bottle.  
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