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  | LJsmum   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Weaning nearly 1 year old... Posted: 17 March 2008 at 7:01pm
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   well i think it's time    To Wean. I feed Luke  bedtime feed and a night/early morning feed around 5am. Sometimes another morning feed so all total 3 BF a day. 
 He has bottles during the day usually 3 of around 100mls each. 9.30am, 1.30pm,4pm.
 I have tried giving him a bottle at the bed time feed but he doesn't want it only wants to be BF. 
 
 Luke is happy to take bottles in the day but bedtime/ night/morning he wants Breast.
 What can I do??? Now he's nearly one Plunket says he should be on about 2 - 3 feeds a day he had 6 feeds today    He eats really well loves his food. So the amount of milk is not affecting that.
 Help!!!!!
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  | nikkitheknitter   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 March 2008 at 8:30pm | 
 
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   Sorry, confused - why do you need to wean?
 Sounds like he is going really well    I'd keep up the good work!
 If you are concerned about him drinking too much, if anything I'd cut down the bottles to just before his sleeps.
 But if you want to finish breastfeeding then hrmmmm... I'll be back   
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  | kebakat   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 March 2008 at 8:34pm | 
 
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   Yeah why do you need to wean?
 You could just cut the bottles down/out or give him water etc from a sippy cup instead.
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  | The_Stuarts   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 March 2008 at 8:40pm | 
 
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   Weaning is such a hard and personal decision but to add my 2 cents worth I agree with the others - why wean?  It doesn't sound like you want to and it definitely doesn't sound like you have to.  I'd keep on going.
 He might choose to wean off some of his feeds himself as he grows older.  Michaela self weaned her afternoon first, then her before bed because she was too interested in other stuff going on around her (she was over a year old by the time she started self weaning).
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  | LJsmum   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 March 2008 at 8:46pm | 
 
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   I just re read it and it does sound confusing!!! Sorry.
 I want to wean to stop the waking at night/early morning it is sometimes 5am but has become anywhere between 3 - 5 am.
 
 So yesterday he went to sleep at around
 7pm
 woke at 2am
 went back to sleep at 2.10am
 awake at 2.30am
 Fed at 2.38am
 asleep at 3.00am
 awake/ fed at 5.00am
 asleep at 5.15am
 awake at 8.10am.
 
 
 I just want to sleep all night!!! and not wake at 3am!! or 5.30am.!!
 
 So thought weaning may be best as have tried crying it out but it hasn't worked so far.
 
 also as he is 1 in 10 days thought I should cut back his feeds?
 
 
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  | arohanui   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 March 2008 at 9:03pm | 
 
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   I have absolutely no experience in this (lol) but I was reading on the sleep store website  this morning about how to get older babies to drop their middle of the night feed.  Talks about how they need to self settle and use something other than a feed to get back to sleep (like a cuddly or something).  The bit I remember said to choose what you want as his cuddly (eg a muslin) and have it close to you when you feed him, so he'll come to associate it with that nice feeling.  And maybe sleep with it under your top a couple of nights.  It goes more indepth, so might be worth checking out the website    | 
 
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  | busymum   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 March 2008 at 11:08pm | 
 
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   If I were you I'd look at upping his solids during the day and letting the milk feeds drop back gradually, to help his night sleeping. I weaned my eldest at that age (from bf) and the 2nd eldest one month prior. They had continued to wake every night and when I weaned, they stopped waking in the night. I'm not sure whether it was comfort/habit or if they were just digesting milk too quick and not having enough food. But since you have tried CIO, the solids intake is probably the next best thing.
 And you could try introducing water with meals and milk in between...
 
 ETA: if he's not so keen on formula, skip it entirely and introduce cows milk - with a small amount of milo if he needs convincing!
 
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  | kebakat   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 18 March 2008 at 7:41am | 
 
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   I got a dvd from the sleep store (its been a while since I watched it tho) but from memory to get them to drop night feeds if you take a watch in with you and time how long hes feeding.. for example say its 10mins, the night night let him only feed for 9 minutes.. and slowly drop it down. Daniel usually wakes at 5am for a feed, I don't especially care about it now because he appears to be starving but I'm slowly dropping the amount he has, and he still sleeps through until wake up time.
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  | The_Stuarts   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 18 March 2008 at 7:54am | 
 
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   Michaela's waking for night feed up until 10 months was because she had problems self settling.  Once she learnt how to self settle at 7pm she started staying asleep until 6am.  The sleep store helped me create a routine that she and I were both comfortable with (no CIO or CC)
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  | popcorn   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 18 March 2008 at 7:57am | 
 
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   Hi Milo
Can you convince him to drink anymore than 100mls formula at a time during day? Maybe if you could get more milk in him during the day time he might not need to wake at night?
 Other than that I have no idea!
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  | Nikki   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 18 March 2008 at 10:07am | 
 
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   You could try sending someone else in with a bottle at night.  If there is no breast on offer he may take that instead, if hes hungry.  We sent my mum/DH in for a few nights when Jake got in a bad habit of waking heaps after a sore tum (about 5.5 months, after starting solids). After a few nights he was down to just one feed of only 100mls, which we dropped with a bit of crying - far less than I imagined though - about 20mins the first night, 12mins the second night then he slept through from the 3rd night.  Not everyones cup of tea, but I was exhausted!  And I knew he didn't really need to be feeding in the night - he was just using me as a comforter.
We also did as someone above suggested, gave him a toy/cuddly which he still uses to self-settle in the night.
 
 I agree with SimoneF too - could you make him hold out for the milk feeds during the day and have a 200ml bottle instead? That may encourage him have a larger last feed so he isn't waking hungry.
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  | nikkitheknitter   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 18 March 2008 at 10:13am | 
 
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   Ahhhhh you want to wean from night feeds! Makes so much more sense.
 For me it was a matter of being a bit cold hearted... made for a lot of leaking though! haha
 I offered her water in a bottle at night if she got up and then cuddled her back to sleep.
 I think I remember sometimes just giving in    but eventually she got over it.
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  | LJsmum   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 18 March 2008 at 8:20pm | 
 
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   Thanks everyone for your advice and ideas   I had to work late tonight had a meeting so DH was there to give dinner, do bath, e.t.c and Luke took a bottle, 100mls for his last feed. 
 Which was excellent       So happy he fed, even though it was only 100. Today he had 4 bottles between 100 - 170 mls each so he did have more today which was good.
 So the plan is to offer water when he wakes at 3am we have offered bottle DH has done this and he takes 100mls.But DH is tired too and needs sleep too.
  So will see how it goes. I don't really want to wean but NEED SLEEP!!!! So will see how we go....
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  | MyMinis   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 19 March 2008 at 10:20am | 
 
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   how did it go? did he sleep well for you both?
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  | LJsmum   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 19 March 2008 at 6:04pm | 
 
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   Luke fell asleep early last night, 6.20 pm so when i arrived home at 7.15 he was already alseep. Usually he is in bed at 7pm or just after. So was expecting him to wakre up early for a feed.
 He woke at 2.30am for a feed I fed him as I hadn't fed since the night before and had heaps of milk and leaking every where. So he fed well and then woke at 4.30 fed one side and back 2 sleep. Awake for the day at 7.30am. 
 So i didn't stick to my plan... Thought i couldn't as if i gave him water he wouldn't drink it as milk was dripping everwhere!!!   Have decided to stop night feeding during weekend as have more time and won't be working the next day !!!
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 19 March 2008 at 8:11pm | 
 
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   Have no advice, but just wanted to say good luck with dropping the night feeds. Ella still has a couple of feeds at night so am going to take advantage of the long weekend coming up and try a bit of tough love this weekend.  | 
 
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