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  | hils10   Groupie
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 January 2011 at 9:19pm | 
 
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   Oh believe me, I would love to not be rocking her to sleep     Just that in our experience, the manner in which she falls asleep seems to have little bearing on how long she stays asleep - in fact I think she actually sleeps longer when she's rocked to sleep.  But we are working on getting her off that cos I know its bad and can't go on for ever! 
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  | 1st_Time_Preggies   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   Hils10, its not "BAD" if it works and you don't mind.  But if it is getting to be a problem, then I guess working on it slowly is the only option!
 CRAP CRAP CRAP night here      Have started on a mission to adjust his nap times to see if that makes ANY difference at all.  Last night he screamed as per usual at bedtime BUT it did not take AS long to get to sleep and the screaming was not as intense.  
 However he still woke two hourly overnight and the 4.30am wake up took an HOUR, even tried b/fing which didn't do a damn thing.  
 My DH is getting better at settling him at night so I might have to start sending him in, so there is no boobie option    The little man then slept in till 8am!  So we all did      So today I am going to only give him one nap around 1pm.
 I was going to cut his morning nap right down to half an hour and then give him an afternoon nap, but am wondering whether it would be easier and nicer on everyone if I just gave him ONE nap, instead of trying to wake him from his first one??
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  | millymollymandy   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:31pm | 
 
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   I would do it slowly, I found if I did too bigger jump they get OT and don't nap at all and sadly, wake more at night.  I friends advice was 15mins, every three days, which was great advice.  Most under 2s got to sleep between 12-12.30 one nap.
 Sounds like you are making progress at night, just be consistent and do the same thing every time, so he learns, that yes you are there, but that getting himself of to  sleep is the only outcome.
 
 
 
 
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  | JoJames   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:59pm | 
 
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   Did you get a copy of the sleepsense programme?  If you PM me you email, I can send it to you if you want.
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  | Disco   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 22 January 2011 at 4:58pm | 
 
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   We had the exact same thing happen just before christmas. Went down for naps during the day or at night no problem. Then all of a sudden, we got hysterical crying but would stop and smile and giggle when I went in to console her.
 In the end we did the sleepstore recommendation, going in 5, 10, 15 mins took a week or two but we got there. Was hard to listen too but we're back to going to sleep with no tears and everyone is happy :)
 
 I think it might be a phase they go through??
 
 hope it's getting better for you.
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  | 1st_Time_Preggies   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 22 January 2011 at 8:43pm | 
 
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   OH MY GOODNESS, DS only had an hour's nap today (long story) and I warned my hubby it was NOT enough.  He said: maybe he shouldn't sleep at all during the day.  What a load of bull!!!  And we are sure paying for it now.  Instead of waking two hourly, so far tonight he was woken every 45 min.  What a complete nightmare    | 
 
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  | Keleho   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 22 January 2011 at 9:36pm | 
 
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   Hugs 1TP    It really does make life difficult if babies dont sleep like they *should*.
 I was chatting to you over on the T forum as well - im the one doing Verbal Reassurance at the moment. 
 If you want to chat to a heap of us that have done it with massive success, pop into the April 2010 bubs. There  is so many of us that have just or are currently going through it that could be good motivation if you wanted to head down that route.
 Tonight was my 5th night doing VR and DD went down wide awake, grizzled slightly for 30 seconds and then went to sleep. No fuss what so ever.
 Ive also noticed since starting that she sleeps a lot better. Before, no way would I got in her room as she slept as she would wake and that would be it. Tonight I managed to pull two toys out from under her and then turn her over onto her back (she was in an odd position), all while she slept - opened her eyes slightly but no noise, no waking, straight back to sleep. No denying it is hard to listen to but IMO it was hard before as well, just in a different way.
 I hope things improve for you soon, no matter which method you choose to follow
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  | millymollymandy   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 23 January 2011 at 5:48pm | 
 
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   KerryLea - great work on the VR - it worked brilliantly for us too! And yes I found we had a much deaper sleeper after that.
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  | 1st_Time_Preggies   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 February 2011 at 2:58pm | 
 
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   An update!  We have been trialling one nap around 11-11.30am and so far it seems to have improved our nights.  Mostly goes down okay in the evenings now, and the last two nights has slept from 7pm till 3.30am!!!!!  Unheard of :-)  I'm sure it won't last but I am enjoying it while it lasts!!!
 However, we are still struggling with the 3/4/5am wake up.  It happens every night and he is very hard to settle.  Sometimes he will settle and then wake up 45 min later.  Anyone else had this?  I hear him settle himself at other times, so not sure why this one is so difficult.  His room is warm, he is not wet, and I have night weaned him so am not giving him any boobie in the night anymore.
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  | 1st_Time_Preggies   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 February 2011 at 3:02pm | 
 
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   An update!  We have been trialling one nap around 11-11.30am and so far it seems to have improved our nights.  Mostly goes down okay in the evenings now, and the last two nights has slept from 7pm till 3.30am!!!!!  Unheard of :-)  I'm sure it won't last but I am enjoying it while it lasts!!!
 However, we are still struggling with the 3/4/5am wake up.  It happens every night and he is very hard to settle.  Sometimes he will settle and then wake up 45 min later.  Anyone else had this?  I hear him settle himself at other times, so not sure why this one is so difficult.  His room is warm, he is not wet, and I have night weaned him so am not giving him any boobie in the night anymore.
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  | tiptoes   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 February 2011 at 6:34pm | 
 
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   That's such good news that your having some success with night settling since switching to one nap.  Yay!!!  Even if it doesn't last (and fingers crossed it does!) it's nice to know they CAN go to sleep a bit easier and you can have a bit more of an evening    | 
 
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  | 1st_Time_Preggies   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   Congrats on the pregnancy Chelle!!! :-)
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  | 1st_Time_Preggies   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   Argh, I totally jinxed it and he is screaming in bed as we speak.  Sucks    | 
 
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  | CJsays   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 10 February 2011 at 3:36pm | 
 
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   Oh dear sounds like you are having a real hard time of it, I can understand your frustration as our wee one has colicy episodes and it does make you feel quite useless.  The only thing we have found that helps is a bath right before she tends to do it (bath at 8pm as she tends to go off at 9 or 10pm till 1 or 2am argh).  The bath relaxes her, we dump a pile of food into her (still bottle topping up the BFing so we give her lots of bottle top up!) and she has gone off to sleep and stayed that way perfectly the last 2 nites.  COuld be worth a try for you?  I really hope something works for you, sounds like it has been going on for a while for you now    | 
 
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  | tiptoes   Senior Member
 
   
   
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|  1st_Time_Preggies wrote: 
 Congrats on the pregnancy Chelle!!! :-)
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