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Danaj 
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 Posted: 26 January 2009 at 8:03pm |
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And now we get to listen to his lawyer prepare his defense publicly about not being able to remember due to drug addiction. I'm sure we'll here all about the abuse he suffered as a child blah blah blah and he'll be referred for assesment to see if he's fit for trial blah blah blah.....
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caitlynsmygirl
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Posted: 26 January 2009 at 8:07pm |
 Danaj wrote:
And now we get to listen to his lawyer prepare his defense publicly about not being able to remember due to drug addiction. I'm sure we'll here all about the abuse he suffered as a child blah blah blah and he'll be referred for assesment to see if he's fit for trial blah blah blah..... |
your'e right.
*yawn *
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Posted: 26 January 2009 at 9:16pm |
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yup stupid lawyer - although as long as hes getting paid..... I often wonder how the lawyers sleep knowing they are defending scum!
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minik8e
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Posted: 26 January 2009 at 9:52pm |
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Just in defence of the lawyer - a lawyer's job is to make the best of the information they are given to present to the Court to get the best possible outcome for their client. They aren't allowed to refuse a case, unless there are specific circumstances in place. It can, sometimes, be possible to "seperate" your feelings from the job you're doing, but it takes a very skilled person to do so. Those people make very good criminal defence lawyers.
The whole "he was unaware cos he was on P" really gets up my nose however. Who gives a rats, he CHOSE to do P, he wasn't forced into it, so he needs to take responsibility for his actions which were a direct consequence of his own choice.
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caitlynsmygirl
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Posted: 26 January 2009 at 10:35pm |
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I for one couldn't be a lawyer.
The lawyer for the guy that killed my friend (the guy drove through a crowd of people hitting 3 , then coming back and driving through again, hitting a girl that was giving CPR to one of the injured ) we later found out his (the lawyer's) daughter had been killed 8 years earlier by a drunk driver, my friends murder case (the driver was found guilty of 2 counts of murder) must have been pretty hard for him.
But still, im sick of hearing excuses for why people did things all the time . (lawyer aside, I just mean the man responsible for the tragedy )
edited cos I wasnt making sense
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Danaj
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Posted: 27 January 2009 at 7:44am |
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I know the case you're talking about. That was horrid and I think most of the country was in shock about that one chick. Sorry to hear it was a friend of yours.
And in regards to the lawyer thing, everyone does deserve a decent defense otherwise innocent people would go to jail BUT......I just couldn't live with myself making up this persons defense knowing that his actions caused the death of a young father.
This is going to be a very very sad case and regardless of the verdict, everyone has already lost.
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Posted: 27 January 2009 at 9:47am |
Shannon: How does this lawyer sleep knowing he is defending scum??
Probably after drinking expensive wine, in his expensive bed in his really big house. 
Even fairly incompetent lawyers that primarily do legal aid work at the Manukau Court earn almost $100k.
Oh dear I have jumped on my soap box.....I know that everyone is entitled to legal representation however this is a subject that makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!
The sooner a system of 'public defenders' is introduced the better. Legal aid is such a gravy train.
Rant over... I promise
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caitlynsmygirl
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Posted: 27 January 2009 at 9:49am |
thanks Dana, for the record,I didn't know the chick that got hurt, my friend was the guy that got killed the first time jerkface drove through the crowd ,before the moron came back and did it again ,killing the girl .It was Oct 06 , in Pakuranga/Highland park
As for the lawyer thing in this case, me neither, no matter what the rules are, I couldn't defend someone whos actions had caused this type of pain .
You have to hope the lawyers can seperate themselves from it , cos its scary to think some might actually agree with what they are saying 
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my4beauties
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Posted: 27 January 2009 at 10:50am |
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My DH heard a version of how Halatau was shot, and short story, he looks like he drove beside the truck in the line of fire. But if that was the case - why were there still motorists driving past the carnage? Shouldn't there have been a road block or someone waving hands for motorists to stop? I know it would've all happened pretty quickly - maybe too quickly for other motorists to slow and get out of the way.
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Posted: 27 January 2009 at 12:31pm |
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I am realy feeling for the family of Halatau and for the officer who pulled the trigger.
The way i see it is that if he had hesitated and not pulled the trigger there and then the driver of the truck may have died but as he pulled the trigger when he did it was someone else. This was an absolute tragedy and the only person to blame is the offender and it is a shame IMO he cannot be charged with muder.
In regards to the offender wanting some slack as he was drugged up, that is no defence. Drunk driver know what will happen if they drive drunk and are charged without slack and i am sure this was not the first time he had done drugs so would know how he was under the influence...waht a numb nuts!
I am sure the officer is going through hell right now and i know it is a cops worst nightmare.
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caitlynsmygirl
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Posted: 27 January 2009 at 2:36pm |
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wow, bit of a vent coming up here (on the same topic tho ! )
I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions etc, but sometimes im really stumped at some members of the public, and the quite frankly, idiotic things they say .
I am referring to t todays paper and 2 letters (both from women ) who write criticising Halatau's bereaved family for blaming the police member who shot their son .
Yes perhaps they are blaming the wrong person , the guilty party is the man who started it all , but oh, my , effing GOD .
Give them a break , its ,what , 4 days? since their son/fiance/brother was killed , at the moment their thoughts are going to be all over the place , and yet these two women put that aside so they can publicly berate them .
I find it interesting , (and it angers me ) how quickly people can judge, especially people in mourning , the two letter writers should remember the old saying "there but for the grace of God , go I "
Fridays tragic conclusion , could really have been ANYONE on that motorway , I bet they would have been reacting a lot differently if it was someone they loved who got killed.
Ok, rant over, and sorry if it offended anyone.
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Halatau and the police?
