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InthemiddleMummy
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Posted: 29 May 2012 at 8:17pm |
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i didnt but i should have as really didnt like her behaviur with the kids she looked after when she came into my workplace, several times each week for 2months, ignored them, they shook in their shoes each time she yelled at them.
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saw another homecare lady today in a store looking for clothes, the kids were sat down by the toybox 2 x 3yr old boys and a 10/11month old baby in a umbrella stroller and ignored while she browsed the racks, sad thing is i knew the baby and her mum but the career wont know that i know her.
i know as a mother i take my kids into shops now and then when desperate for an outfit, but for some reason to me it doesnt seem the best thing to do as a childcare provider/worker???
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InthemiddleMummy
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Posted: 29 May 2012 at 8:19pm |
like do i tell the mother she goes out clothes shopping while caring for her son?, that poor baby is strapped in that umbrella stroller alot (small town i notice her places)
Sorry topic has swayed somewhat
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Posted: 29 May 2012 at 8:26pm |
Man there are some negative opinions in here about in-home carers!
We love ours, DS has been in one through Barnardos for the past year. Our DCP has been with Barnardos for 10 years, and has school age children. In the entire year she's never called in sick (AMAZING) and only took a few days off on either side of Christmas with tons of notice.
DS was only 11 months old when he started, and I wanted him somewhere small, with one carer he could bond with. He loves being there and fights me to stay when I pick him up!!
I love that he knows all the other kids there well (4 or 5 others, on differing days), but his favourite is school holidays when her older children are there. They will play with the littlies all day - DS does not sleep on these days, and comes home very grumpy, LOL!
I can't speak highly enough about our experience. They do not get carted out to Mitre10 as a previous poster has insinuated all in-home carers do. They go to playgroups 2-3 times a week, and to the park the other days. We have a mall nearby and in the school holidays they go for the school holiday program. I love that they are not just in a centre all day.
Anyway, I would look into it and go with your gut. Most places will give you a choice of 2-3 carers to meet and visit to see who you click with.
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Posted: 29 May 2012 at 8:51pm |
Has anyone who is telling these negative in-home stories actually had their kid in in-home daycare? Or do you just fundamentally disagree with the concept? I find it extremely strange that you seem to be judging the system as a whole when it is the most rapidly growing area of childcare directly responding to demand from parents who are interested in attachment-parenting (when the parent cant be there, having 1 person who they can rely on all the time!).
Girlsrock - do you live in a particularly dodgy area because you have some pretty nasty stories! There are always going to be dorks out there who do it because they think its an easy way to make money while they can stay home with their own young children - but tarnishing everyone with that brush is just unfair. You dont see any in-home people here bagging out center care!
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InthemiddleMummy
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Posted: 30 May 2012 at 2:57pm |
Yes quite tru Im sure there is some equally aweful "centre care" stories.
Nope dont live in a dodgy area at all. INfact a very popular area with families - good schools/shops/kindys/childcare centres/preschools.
My auntie is a career with Barnadoes and has been for years (lives in another town to me now thou). I guess after seeing her high standard of care its hard for me to stomach what I see some of these careers up too. She had a house split into 2 flats, one for her & her daughter and the other side was her Barnadoes Flat.
Anyways each to their own choices just go with what you feel best as a mother I guess.
We've personally chosen community based centre( not for profit ECE) as Ive found ECE centres that are "businesses" chopping their staffing levels down far too much 1 teacher to 15 kids is not great IMO. Our centre is 1:2 for babies and 1:3 for 2-3-4yr and real free 20hours, also I looked for a place with low staff turnover. 1 centre in town has had a turnover of 50 teachers in the 5 years its been open.
Im not a trained teacher in ECE and thats not my specialty thats why I like to send my kids along to a centre where they can learn from teachers that are fresh in the knowledge/interested in what is the best thing to teach little ones.
So I say just do your reaserch in your town and figure out what works for you & your child
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Posted: 30 May 2012 at 5:19pm |
Girls Rock wrote:
Im not a trained teacher in ECE and thats not my specialty thats why I like to send my kids along to a centre where they can learn from teachers that are fresh in the knowledge/interested in what is the best thing to teach little ones.
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How do you know that the home based caregivers are not ECE trained?? We are all actively encouraged to study towards ECE.
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I just would rather my child playing in sandpit/blocks/painting/learning etc than being dragged into Mitre10 and supermarket and up town on her errands yep they take them to m&m and the like too.
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Obviously you are talking about one "bad" care giver. I tend not to take my kids to the shops, basically cause we're busy with activities that i take (drag  ) them to where they can do all those things you say. But supermarket shopping, going to other shops are all learning experiences, it's life learning which you don't get in a day-care (which is why I chose home based).
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So I say just do your reaserch in your town and figure out what works for you & your child |
Absolutely agree! you need to do what works for your family.
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Posted: 30 May 2012 at 6:07pm |
Girls Rock wrote:
like do i tell the mother she goes out clothes shopping while caring for her son?, that poor baby is strapped in that umbrella stroller alot (small town i notice her places) |
I would. Perhaps keep it in a casual sense (Mum may be aware and happy with it).
To the OP - lots of great advice here re: what to ask potential carers and what to look for, though I also think listen to your 'Mummy instinct'
My own experience with home-based care has been mostly very positive. We've had 3 amazing carers and 1 who was OK (we moved to a new carer (SIL) as soon as we could). With DS1 & DD1, I returned to work when they were 5mths old so I wanted someone they could build up a relationship with. I also really like the idea of them being in a home environment. And I like that they get to go on normal outings to the supermarket, post office and even *gasps* home decorating stores!
Each to their own though, you really do have to be comfortable and confident about who you are leaving your children with.
All the best with your decision
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Posted: 30 May 2012 at 8:27pm |
I know with my child, the carer was ECE trained, and generally she was good, did good educational activities with the children etc, but as she lived 15 mins from town 2 x runs to town for kindy drop off/ pick up etc meant a lot of time in the car. Also she would take the older kids to swimming lessons then moan that she had to watch my child so much around water and couldnt wathc her own kids at thier lesson. There was countless trips to doctors appts dentist appts etc where my child was dragged along to hamilton (30 mins away) for hours at a time. I often found my child un settled and often did not get a decent sleep on days she had appointments. I have been mucked around heaps with carers wanting holidays, then changing dates, then saying they dont want my child any more then wanting him back in a couple of months...very unsettling and inconcvenient. Also find that the inhome carers I have had dont realise how much work is involved looking after another persons child. They think it will be easy and just can carry on their normal life while earning extra money. They get a rude awakening anf have had 2 of them decide after a couple of months that they dont want to care for my child after all. That irks me as it is quite a big thing for an under 2 year old to shift carers. I had 3 shifts in 6 months with PORSE! So for me I think the decision to put my son in a centre was definately the best
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Posted: 31 May 2012 at 1:41pm |
our home carer (incidentally, carer, not career) is trained and is studying towards her ECE diploma so she can teach. She worked in childcare centres for years and didn't like the way they approached things (I think I said this before) so decided to switch to home care.
mizpix, sounds like you've had some really bad luck with carers. Is it difficult to find them where you are? You sound like you might be fairly rural.
Girls Rock, I would definitely be saying something about what you've seen. Like mummydee said, just casually, 'in case you don't know' type thing.
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Posted: 31 May 2012 at 5:50pm |
Thanks all for your opinions. I have 6 different ladies through different companies to see over the next few weeks. Luckily im in no rush and will want to make sure im comfortable with a carer before leaving them.
I guess going shopping etc wouldnt bother me much if it was too a certain point. DD loves shopping so for her its a bit of an adventure out. I guess those are all things i will discuss with the carer as to what i find ok and what i dont and what they would want to do :)
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Posted: 31 May 2012 at 10:45pm |
It's not really in the sticks here lisame, but defintely seems harder to get in home care in a small town. Would be nice to choose a carer rather than just have to take the one that has space!
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Posted: 01 June 2012 at 1:14pm |
that's bizarre - I live in a fairly small town, and we have a massive oversupply of home carers! Go figure.
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Posted: 02 June 2012 at 8:09pm |
lisame
well done on picking up my typo!!!
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