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AnnC
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Topic: latching on ............ Posted: 14 December 2006 at 12:06pm |
oh boy am I ready to give up on the breast. I had the la leche person come yesterday and I am more confused now. Hes not getting latching on straight away and the way she showed me to do it I am so uncomfortable and still can't get him on. This morning I was almost in tears cause I really want it to work and I had no trouble with the other two. I have plenty of milk from just colecting from other boob (this is while hes feeding on the other) since yesterday afternoon I hv filled up an ice cube tray. I would like to try him with a bottle of expressed milk but scared he will get nipple confusion (as he has a dummy too)
Thing is when offered the second boob hes straight on no worries.
So questions:
Anyone else have same problem and when/if it sorted it out?
Those who have expressed and fed with bottle did it create even more problems with latching on the boob?
Its not like he isn't gaining weight as he eventually gets on just that 10-15 minutes of 'mucking about' drives us both mad.
I was going to go shopping today but the amount of time its taken t feed i just can't be botherend now and i am put off incase he wants feeding while out as it takes so long and when he muckc about not only am i exposed all the time but i leak like mad.
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luna
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 12:15pm |
I really feel for you, as I had very similar problems with Amelia not latching on. Anyway, all got fixed (only for my milk supply to dwindle due to a breast infection). Amelia's problem was her neck (fixed by the chiropractor).
However, I digress. If Rhyley is latching fine one side and not the other, can you change your hold for that side? Maybe he is uncomfortable for some reason. I know someone in my coffee group would do cradle for one side and football on the other.
Secondly, because of Amelia not latching properly to start off with, I did express and give her a bottle - she never had any nipple confusion, and in fact once she got the boob sorted, would prefer that to a bottle (contrary what the plunket nurse told me may happen). If you are concerned about it, you could get a Choo Choo teat from a pharmacy - supposed to be similar to a nipple. They only go on narrow neck bottles though.
Hope things pick up for you soon!
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 12:37pm |
We had issues with latching for the first few weeks too. Sometimes it would take 45mins to get him on, by which time mummy and baby were both howling with frustration. Eventually we discovered that my nipples were slightly inverted, so by using nipple guards for a week or he was able to latch, and help get them sticking out further (for want of a better term  ) I'm glad I persevered, but I tell you, I was close to giving up on a daily basis. It's hard work (as you know!!), but it can, and does get better. All the best Ann
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 12:39pm |
its not a left or right breast its a first or second offered breast.
I have strilised the breast pump and bottles so next feed I am going to try him on it. I mean hes getting enough once on and feeding.
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 1:09pm |
I know someone who used to double his tongue over when latching so obviously that wasn't much help.
Is he too full? Likes only foremilk? Sorry I'm mostly coming up with blanks
As for using a bottle, I used a bottle (expressed milk) once a day with my DD1 from 2wks old and there was never any probs with confusion. So I wouldn't worry about that, but I wouldn't want to do it long-term.
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 3:46pm |
Hi, just been through the same problem, them more "professional advice" i got the more confused i got. I started to use a nipple sheild, and it works great, you can then whip it off half way through a feed and see if he can latch, my boy doesn't so i use the nipple sheild full time, and he is gaining weight like and elephant, and i have plenty of milk, which are the two concerns about using the sheilds, he also takes a bottle of expressed milk, and has a dummy, so if any one was going to get confused its Ethan, but he doesn't. (he cant latch as he aparently has a very small inside of his mouth)
good luck, it took me 4 weeks to get him to latch with nipple guard, so it can happen
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 4:19pm |
Yikes I don't think I have the patience to wait 4 weeks more.
Hes due to feed now and almost awake and so will try again.
I think I am more fustrated as my older two children took to the breast really easy even after my first born had been in NNU and not fed off me for a few days.
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 9:37pm |
My two gremlins have been bottle fed expressed milk since they were 6 days old and still take the breast really well so no nipple-teat confusion here, although I suspect that may just be good luck.
I wish I had some advice re: latching but I'm not sure what the answer is (if there is one?). I can say tho that if you persevere it will get easier. I was in tears and ready to give up breastfeeding a couple of weeks ago coz the girls were 7 weeks and I still couldn't get past the pain, but I stuck with it and it has gotten easier. We're not 100% there yet but getting there.
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 9:56pm |
i do remember u saying u were fed up with bf not so long ago. /i expressed 80mls quite effortlessly and offer it in a bottle to Rhyley he took straight away to the bottle and drunk all of it without once pulling away or mucking about. I am going to offer breast again this feed. i knolw there is no quick fixed its just comforting to know your not alone and that it does get better.and anything that worked for others are a great help too.
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Posted: 14 December 2006 at 10:11pm |
Is it maybe that the flow from the first breast is too strong for little Riley to cope with and he is fussing because he can't handle the pressure? I think I remember Janine saying something like this with Ayja....?
Perhaps that's why he downs the bottle so well... he's able to control the flow a bit better.
So maybe if you expressed off a little from the first side and then tried to latch him when it wasn't so full, he might cope with it better?
Anyway, hope it gets easier for you one way or another!!
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Posted: 15 December 2006 at 12:40am |
I was going to say the same as Nikki, I had problems with Anastasia not taking the 1st boob offered, it sorted itself out. Found milk flow was too much or too much or a mouthful while breast so full. She did take expressed milk for a while then refused to take a bottle at all so if you want to have that option open to you use a bottle every now and then so he stays used to it. I also found it was more comfortable (less suffocating) for both of us to use football hold to feed, not so easy when out but great while at home.
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