New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Mortgage refinancing
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Forum LockedMortgage refinancing

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
cullen1 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 10 July 2009
Points: 4
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cullen1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Mortgage refinancing
    Posted: 10 July 2009 at 10:03pm
Hi, Me and my partner are looking to refinance our mortgage, I have a couple of questions.
1, We have only been in our mortgage for to years and we borrowed 100%, we don't yet have 5%eq, Who do you think would be the best bank to approach?, will any banks refinance us?
2, We paid Lenders Mortgage Insurance of $9,500 do we lose that if we refinance with someone else? does it roll over? or is it refunded?
Any help would be great
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
linda View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 02 September 2003
Points: 1211
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote linda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 July 2009 at 10:27pm
Sorry, no idea and I haven't heard of Lenders Mortgage Insurance either!


Alex 6 and Harry 8
Back to Top
emz View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 25 November 2006
Location: Christchurch
Points: 5321
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote emz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 July 2009 at 10:37pm
Honestly I doubt many places would allow you to refinance with less than 5% as they're calling for up to 20% deposit these days. Also if you bought 2 years ago chances are your house is worth less now than what the mortgage owing on the property is (they would do a valuation and find that out) - so it probably wouldn't be worth it.

Haven't heard of Lenders Mortgage Insurance paid in a lump sum, only of it being paid in installments. I would assume that there would be a clause where it would come under part of your break fees, if you have to pay those.

That's the other thing - if you are coming out of your fixed term then it does pay to shop around, but if you are still locked into a fixed term the break fees will be a killer.

Good luck but TBH I would stick in there until you have a bit more equity, unless your earning power has increased significantly and then I would approach a mortgage broker (a reputable one) to find out what could be best for you.
Back to Top
AuntieSarah View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 April 2007
Location: Hastings
Points: 1442
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AuntieSarah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 9:58am
We were looking at this too...my dh emailed ASB the other day and they said we need 30% equity on our GV or 20% on a registered valuation. Yeah right! He thinks that Kiwibank, Westpac, or BNZ will lend 95% so they might be the best places to start.

You should get a refund of part of your LMI fee. I'm not sure how much of it would get refunded though.
Back to Top
fattykat View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 March 2009
Location: Hawkes Bay
Points: 620
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fattykat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 10:44am
I would approach a mortgage broker.
We used the local Mike Pero guy when we first got our mortgage, then for refixing and also when we switched banks and found him awesome. Saved us alot of hassle and he got us a good deal all times.
Back to Top
minik8e View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: Taranaki
Points: 5838
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote minik8e Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 10:46am
Would you really get a refund on the LMI?? We have a Welcome Home Loan, so paid LMI which was paid in one lump sum and added onto the mortgage. As far as I'm aware, if we refinance, we won't get a refund of any of it. Also, as emz said, buying with 100% two years ago, means that the property is probably worth less now so you may actually need to be refinancing over 100% of the value now - which most banks are unlikely to do. Have you done any work on the property to increase the value at all??

I think you might find it difficult to find another lender, but if you go through a mortgage broker, they may find something. Is there a particular reason why you want to refinance??
Back to Top
Chickaboo View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 November 2008
Points: 9471
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chickaboo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 4:37pm
i know people keep saying go thru a mortgage broker but not all places use them (yesthe banks pay them a fee for referring to them) ie: bnz do not use mortgage brokers - so you are better off picking a bank and going to see them - they can do all the figures and say yes or no if they can do it or not and most won't charge for the service. (i know bnz do this and do not charge)


876
Back to Top
cullen1 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 10 July 2009
Points: 4
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cullen1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by minik8e minik8e wrote:

Would you really get a refund on the LMI?? We have a Welcome Home Loan, so paid LMI which was paid in one lump sum and added onto the mortgage. As far as I'm aware, if we refinance, we won't get a refund of any of it. Also, as emz said, buying with 100% two years ago, means that the property is probably worth less now so you may actually need to be refinancing over 100% of the value now - which most banks are unlikely to do. Have you done any work on the property to increase the value at all??

I think you might find it difficult to find another lender, but if you go through a mortgage broker, they may find something. Is there a particular reason why you want to refinance??


Yes we have done a full reno, on the lounge, dining, kitchen & bathroom plus we have painted the outside of the house and roof in new modern colours.
We are currently on 8.8% and could save around $100 per week if we could refinance at around 6.5%
Back to Top
sadie View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 23 April 2008
Points: 251
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sadie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 8:43pm
When is your fixed term up? With the break fees, you might find that a saving of $100 a week is eaten up by the break fees that would need to be added back on to your mortgage.

We broke earlier in the year as we were selling and buying, and had to suck up a ridiculous amount of break fees. It was worth it for us though as we sold our house for a nice profit (bought 3 years prior), and then bought a more expensive house.

We stuck with the same bank (ASB), and as we have a great relationship with our mortgage guy, he allowed us to borrow 85% on the new house - a huge amount as well given that this house cost nearly $600k.

Sit down, crunch the numbers to see if it is worth it, speak to your current mortgage person to get their opinion, and then ring a couple of others too to see what they can offer.

Good luck.
Back to Top
emz View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 25 November 2006
Location: Christchurch
Points: 5321
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote emz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 8:43pm
How long have you got to go on your fixed rate? We are on 8.2% but are just waiting it out until February when our rate comes off as the break fees are horrendous (because of course the banks lose that extra 2%+ of interest when you break).
Back to Top
cullen1 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 10 July 2009
Points: 4
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cullen1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by emz emz wrote:

How long have you got to go on your fixed rate? We are on 8.2% but are just waiting it out until February when our rate comes off as the break fees are horrendous (because of course the banks lose that extra 2%+ of interest when you break).


We come off our fixed term in 2 months, so we are thinking we should start looking what is out there for us, we don't want to break early we will wait until the fixed term is up
Back to Top
emz View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 25 November 2006
Location: Christchurch
Points: 5321
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote emz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2009 at 11:01pm
Ah well that makes a difference then! Basically as far as I understand it, if you stick with your current bank, they will just redo the rate, but if you choose to go to another bank, you have to apply just like you would when you initially buy the house and seeing as you don't have much equity that's where you could face issues (unless of course your renos have added a lot of equity to the house).

It will be a nice change though going down about 2%! I can't wait til ours comes off, we can do a lot with about $80 extra a week.
Back to Top
AuntieSarah View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 April 2007
Location: Hastings
Points: 1442
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AuntieSarah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2009 at 5:12pm
I have had part of LMI refunded twice - once when I sold my house after 6 months, and the second time when we sold our house after 2 years and got a bigger mortgage for another house. But of course we had to pay an LMI fee on the new mortgage, because it is going to be with a different bank I'd assume it'd be the same and you'd get a refund of the LMI from your current bank and have to pay a new LMI fee to the new bank. Although maybe that would be part of the new mortgage...I dunno. Crying baby is distracting me lol.
Back to Top
clover View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 21 July 2008
Points: 2090
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote clover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2009 at 10:38am
Westpac, Kiwibank & AMP I know still do 95% but that is with very strict criteria. I think you'll struggle to be honest.
Back to Top
cullen1 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 10 July 2009
Points: 4
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cullen1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2009 at 9:29pm
We are dealing with BNZ they have offered us a refinancing package fixed for 18months at 5.99% got our house valued and it has gone up so we are wrapped!!!!!
To anyone looking I would highly suggest you see BNZ they have been great
Back to Top
Chickaboo View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 November 2008
Points: 9471
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chickaboo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2009 at 10:31pm
Yay Cullen1 I knew BNZ would help

eta: i know I am a wee bit biased as i work there!

Edited by Chickaboo


876
Back to Top
WRXnKids View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 11 February 2007
Location: Invercargill
Points: 2435
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WRXnKids Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2009 at 8:55am
lucky - when i went through BNZ they told me we were good to put in offers on houses up to 180000 then when we found a house for 157000 they declined us at 4.30pm the day before we went unconditional and when i asked if i did have the 20% would they put it through they said they could only look at it again in 6mths needless to say i no longer deal with BNZ
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.05
Copyright ©2001-2022 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 1.906 seconds.