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youngmumnz
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Topic: Opinions on enrolment age for school Posted: 20 January 2008 at 12:42pm |
Hi there, i was wondering if anyone has any opinions or can tell me when they enrolled there kids into school?
My partners ex has his son but he still has custody we were considering giving her shared custody but to my knowledge kids did little half days for a week or something before school started so they could get used to the new enviroment? Hes turned 5 on january 3rd and his mother has no intention of enrolling him into school claimming she needs the custody papers to do so, so i rang some friends of mine who live in auckland and got them to ring some schools regarding enrolments etc and all she needs is his birth certificate which she has as we gave it to her hes a bright boy and is really looking forward to going to school. (i was angry with her to begin with as she got his hopes up about his birthday then shatterd him and cancelled it and she doesnt feel bad about it at all!)
My partner has decided to not give her any custody rights until he is enrolled in school and we are giving her till end of march to mid april to get him enrolled if she doesnt we are going to issue legal procedings.
Are we jumping the gun here should we give her more time? im just worried about all the school he will miss.
Any opinions would be appreciated :D
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Jess
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Kels
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 12:56pm |
I would get onto it as sooon as possible. He should be starting school at the beginning of the year. He should have school visits at the end of last year to get him used to it.
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 12:58pm |
Legally the child doesn't need to be enrolled till he is 6.
I don't quite get why she isn't sending him to school once it starts back in 2 weeks time? Aside from missing the first couple of weeks, whcih are awesome for easing kids into school rather than having him start mid way through a term when kids have made friends etc and know the rules (this is normal for all kids who don't have jan birthdays, but hey, might as well get some advantage out of an early year birhtday) i would question the control issues she has.
i think there is a lot more at stake here than just missing school and I think that if these are the decisions she makes - unifomed, controlling and breaking promises to the child, are you sure you even want to give shared custody? Because this sort of thing doesn't sound healthy to me.
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 1:45pm |
Thats what i dont get either and yes she does have control issues and no shes not a healthy person at all mentaly, she keeps telling my partners boy that he cant do certain things because of his dad which is sad we have his sister who lives with us as she was only a baby when her mum left so she doesnt know her and jacob her brother knew her and saw her twice but decided beginning of last year that he wanted to live with her so we respected that but i dont think its in his best interests to stay there i think maybe visits when we fly up there but nothing more.
She only wants the custody papers to gloat which is why we have been holding off giving them too her as thats just pathetic.
Her and i have had arguments (not infront of the kids) regarding her behaviour as at one point she abused my partner after talking to there son who we had at the time making a positive experiance a negative one.
She has also got agro at cyfs because they couldnt find any faults with our care of the kids so yes major control issues. Going to talk to my partner tonight get him to ring his lawyer tomorrow.
I have a photo of him not compared to when he lived with us might see if the lawyer is interested in seeing them as there is a big difference. I might see if i can figure out how to post them on here and get your opinions on the photos to me he looks more sad then his normal picture.
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Jessica
(You guys have been a major help thanks i dont feel like were being over paranoid now)
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busymum
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 5:41pm |
Hi there, just from a legal point of view the mother can enrol the child in school because she is a guardian and the only issue with having custody or not would be that the school he is enrolled in is close to where he usually lives.
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 6:25pm |
Wow, I reckon you need to bring him back with you - a 4 year old wills ay what he thinks will make people happy and it is easy for a parent to fill their head with you want to live with me crap. SO my advice would be that it might just be best for you to have him with you guys, if that will suit the family.
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 6:52pm |
Well my Andrew is 5 next April (i'm slighty scared about that) and chances are for us is that we will be in Sydney when he turns 5. I am going to wait till we come back to NZ (in July) for him to start school. He is quite bright (biased mum probably) so won't miss out on too much.
But like miss said legally 6 and they have to be at school.
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 12:40am |
Wo, your ticker must be well out if Andrew is 5 next April! It says he is 3 years, 8 months, 4 weeks - unless you mean April next year I guess.
The one thign to think about is the way the year is done. Most schools have a cut of of either 1st May or June for 'year end'.
That means, with an April birthday, Andrew will be considered to be a year 1, and in the following year will be classed as year 2.
With him starting in July instead, he will have only 2 terms of his first year at school before mving to year 2. Academically that may be fine, but it also may not.
Friendship wise, if he is going into an intake with July kids, but you want him to move to year 2 at the end of the year, you need to make sure he is put into a class with kids from earlier in the year and not with those starting in July, as they are year 0 and will be year 1 the following year - so he may have problems if all his friends are theyear behind him.
You may even want him to be a year 0 and go to year 1, though this will mean that he is always that bit older than the rest of his class through school.
Just something to be aware of if you aren't already.
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 3:33am |
Wow- personally I would be getting him back with you guys quick smart!
As far as the school goes- such a shame hes missed out on starting the year with all the other kids. That would have made it so much easier for him
Are you guys looking at getting him back with you- or are you just wanting her to enrol him in school?
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 11:04am |
Thanks miss I have a few things to work out with schooling. Yeah it is next year that he turns 5 not this year (thank god ).
I'm going to go down to the school that he is probably going to go to (unless I can get an out of zone enrolment for the primary school I went to in Palmy) later this year to see what I need to do and what they can do for him starting a little later or even if they think its a good idea to put him into a school in Sydney for 3 months. It all depends on if DH gets into the corp he wants to as well but going by what he letters say he is not at all interested in weapons.
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 9:12pm |
Hey guys thanks, Yeah we are looking to get him brought down here with us as we live in christchurch now moved last year and they are in auckland going to see if we do a court order drawn up for my partner to take with the cops to go and get him or if he has to do a affidavit im hoping not a affidavit because if she found out she would take off with him guaranted :( i showed my mum some photos of him from when he was with us and what he looks like now including his sores and stuff and she is discusted she noticed what i noticed that his eyes lost there sparkle and happiness :( Poor boy. The local school down here have some places available for his year so thats good i rung them today i wanna get things sorted asap ive been silently freaking out before she even started her not going to enrol him crap about there living arrangements as shes very flighty and shifts around all the time jacob was moved 5 times last year that we knew of god knows how many times that we dont know of :S so id be soo relieved to get him back and know he has a stable family enviroment and one school not one at each part of the north island lol
Reformatted my computer last night so havent been able to get on :S fun fun fun will not be doing that again in a hurry :S lol :D
have a good night ladies, :)
Jess
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Posted: 29 January 2008 at 5:39pm |
New information came to light these last few weeks so we are definatly getting him back, lawyer is meeting us on thursday to go over everything and sorting out the warrant order?? On top of everything else she has been leaving him to go on swinging escapades and sleeping around again not really caring if her son is around or not. She has him on a adhd diet?? yet has no clinical documentation saying he even has adhd he doesnt even have a docter and has is low lying to him about school saying he will start in the beginning of the term yet telling adults the opposite. I swear people like her shouldnt have kids because they obviously dont know what it means to be a parent.
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Posted: 29 January 2008 at 11:38pm |
Glad you guys have got some things in place to get him back- good luck with it all! Sounds like the poor fella really needs to get away from her asap- or at least get some help!
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