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KH25
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 8:58am |
I love my HRV. We built our house 18mths ago so of course it's well insulated but that also means the moisture couldn't escape. We had TERRIBLE condensation problems last winter, the windows were dripping wet all day. We got the HRV solely to get rid of that problem and the day after installation, not a drop of condensation and haven't had any since. They are NOT a heating system. I believe you can buy the heating thing but I've heard your power bill will go up drastically. We have a heat pump anyway so didn't need any other heating source. HRV is on 24/7. In winter you set the temp you want the house to be (ours is 22). If the house is cooler than that and the roof space is hotter then the fan is on full and pumping as much air from the roof in to try and up the temp in the house. If the roof space is cooler/or the house is already at 22 then the fan is on the lowest setting. Not enough to cool down the house and you can't feel any cold air, but enough to change the air in the room every 20mins (or so the salesman told us  ) And in summer it is the opposite, if the roof is cooler then the fan will be on full. I personally didn't notice the house being cooler in summer though, mainly cos the roof is generally always hotter so it was on low.
Hope that makes sense! Until I got one installed, I wasn't exactly sure how they worked either!
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caliandjack
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 10:08am |
We've had DVS for 3 years in our house, and we have hardly any condensation and the house is noticably drier than our friends and families that don't have it.
DVS isn't a heat transfer system - if anything it is taking the warmer air from your ceiling space and pushing that out into the house - meaning that the cooler moist air already in the house if getting pushed out via windows etc.
Our power bill is minimal less than $200 during winter for 2 adults.
If you are looking for a heating option then you are better off looking at a heat pump or fire depending on where you live.
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sbeach
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 10:22am |
we have a small 1960s weatherboard house... our first winter was really cold and I had puddles of condensation on the window sills and floors in all the rooms!!! we got HRV before last winter and now only a slight mist of condensation in our bedroom in the morning. Also the rest of the house is easier to heat.
They are good at drying a house out but do not heat. They may help keep the days heat around a bit longer.
We are thinking about also getting a heat pump before next winter because of the baby but they are expensive also,,, we paid $2500 for our HRV and I think it was really worth it.
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kiwigal
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 12:56pm |
We have a HRV and got a summer kit with it we have found it fantastic our house is 7 years old and we had started to get mould and a lot of condensation since putting it last year it is a lot drier and warmer just like when we first moved in.
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KatzWtgn
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 2:07pm |
I had an HRV system in my previous house and loved it. I would love to put one in this new house (but finances are a bit tight with the new baby and not working).
I think how well it works depends a lot on the type of house you have. My previous house was an old bungalow with a huge tin roof that got sun all day. So in winter during the day, the roof space would often be 35 degrees plus. I agree it's not a heater but it did mean that we didn't need heating for an extra 4 months of the year (April, May, Oct, Nov) when we did before, and it really took the chill off the house even in the winter months.
If you have a smaller roof space or don't get a lot of sun on your roof, I don't think it would warm the house as well (although it would still deal to condensation).
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Ant
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 2:21pm |
We have an HRV in our house and in a rental property. The tenants love it. It's a two bedroom unit that is warm and dry (the ceiling is also well insulated). It was a bit damp when we lived there, and is much better now. They say that people comment on it when they walk in.
In our house it's been less effective (1920's bungalow), but still an improvement. It definitely does not heat and we had them come back and check the system after having it put in because what the salesman told us and what it does are two different things. If he'd told us the truth we'd have still got it, but at least we would have had the right expectations!
He told us it would keep the house warmer (that only works on warm days), and I very specifically asked him about having doors and windows open etc. He very specifically said, repeatedly, that 'why would we want to, when we've got this lovely fresh air coming it'. I was surprised, but he was fairly adamant. We were left with a clear understanding that we wouldn't need to open windows to enjoy the nice breeze because the house would be so comfortable.
We had a newborn in Jan. The house was very very hot and stifling. Noone can sleep. We get the people back and the guy asks us why we have the windows closed. The system turns off if the roof is hotter than you want, otherwise it's pumping very hot air into the house (tin roof in summer? very hot air). We still need to open the windows he says. I told him what the salesman had said, he implied we had misunderstood. I said we certainly hadn't - I had clearly asked about this very thing.
Now that we know what the system will do, and what it won't, we're very happy with it. It's all about managing expectations.
Also - they are expensive, but if you get a quote after a home show or something you can get a really good price (which is how we could get two properties done... even if we were bad and got them quoted after the show, but didn't do the installation on ours until a year later  )
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 9:25pm |
Thank you every one for your comments, we have decided not to get a HRV due to the price (we were quoted 4300 or 3800 if we said yes when he was here, paying it off with the interest works out to be 4300 the guy was quite pushy at the end when we said we would think bout it for the night) At that price we thought it was a bit expensive for what we wanted it for (condensation etc..) the only room in the house that has mould is the bathroom because there is only a very small window in there for ventilation and we cant have it open all the time.We have a awesome big kent fire place and and get fee firewood
I wonder why he gave us a very high quote price ?? hmm
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 10:30pm |
How big is your house bumblebee? If it is a big house then you might have needed to get two fans and that is what bumps the price up. We have one fan and four vents which was $2.800.
We get free firewood as well so haven't bothered with getting any extra heating, but the house does heat up faster without the extra moisture in the air we have noticed.
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tictacjunkie
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 10:55pm |
DH is also a sparky. He bought a Moisture Master for $1300 & a 3-way transfer kit for $500. So we have fresh air coming into living room (open plan) plus 3 bedrooms, 24hrs/day, if it's cold we turn on the heating in it which just takes the chill off the air coming in. We still have fire going in winter. We have no condensation, no damp, no mould. But we also fully insulated our house- ceiling, walls, floors. It won't solve everything on it's own.
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Posted: 04 June 2010 at 11:08pm |
Oh & we're going to add an extra intake, so in summer you select it to bring air in from outside (it sits southside in the soffit- ?iykwim?) so that it's cool air coming in- not hot roof air. Our house is renovated late 40s/early 50s single storey state house. We've had the MM 6 years, wouldn't give it up, ever! We don't open our windows, the filter is washable, works fantastic. No, DH doesn't sell them! (He does substations, not domestic!) -No bias, honestly!
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bumblebee
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Posted: 05 June 2010 at 6:34pm |
Red nope only the one fan and 5 vents (2 for lounge and 1 for each of the 3 bedrooms) our house is 140sqm or just over i think our house is a weatherboard home that was built 50s/60s even got an old school built in radio turntable thing
Wish we had a family member that was a sparky
Tictac whats a miosture master? where do you get those and who do get to put one one in?
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Posted: 06 June 2010 at 10:08pm |
We were quoted the same sort if price for HRV too (big house), but DH is a builder and has a sparky friend so they installed a Smart Vent system in our house, with the heat transfer kit, heater and summer kit. We don't have condensation anymore, it takes the chill off the air in winter, DS's asthma has been WAY better this winter so far (fingers crossed it stays that way) and in summer it pulls the cooler air from out the back so cools the house a little (very wam house). It also makes the fire so much more efficient and the hot air from the living area is pumped into the rooms. Definitely recommend it, but no - its not like a heat pump (or my parents $14,000 air con system!).
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 10:45am |
we had a DVS in our old house. Cost about $3k from memory and we had outlets in all the bedrooms and lounge. Never had any heating attached, but ours was soley get rid of condensation and dampness. We had a fire which effectively heated the house (3bedroom, 1 level) when the DVS was in but never reached the edges (IYKWIM) without it. LOved it!
In our new house we have just ordered a Smart Vent system to be installed. Cost is about the same as our DVS was and again it is just for drying out the house and getting rid of condensation.
Nikki, would you recommend the heat transfer kit? I thought about it but we didn't get it yet.
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tictacjunkie
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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 1:32am |
Moisture Master is just another type of dvs or hrv, they have ads on tv sometimes, I think they're mostly sold through electrical companies, so you ring your electrician (company more than individual) of choice & they sort it out. That's one thing that annoyed DH about my grands getting a HRV- they had some pushy sales guy- it wasn't installed by an electrician, no certificate of compliance issued, so if it caused a fire their insurance would be void.
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millymollymandy
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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 12:39pm |
DH used to consult on heating insulation etc...He would recommend bypassing DVS HRV's and going for a heat exchange ventilation system. HRV's etc only pull air from one part of the house to the othe HEVS take cold freash air from outside and exchange the warm heat from inside the house, bringing the fresh air in nice and warm. this avoids circulating warm air with cooking smells etc into bedroom and the like. Pulling hot from a roof in summer is bit counter productive.
we had an intellivent system and it was brilliant no condensation and house near got below 9 degrees on super cold days. most nights was 17 in bedrooms.
personally i think heat pumps are great for quickly warming up an area, but i would have a modern wood burner with good radiant heat any day.
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