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FionaO 
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Posted: 08 September 2009 at 8:00pm |
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Hi,
I don't know which way to go on this one, I am job hunting at the moment and have been offered a new job and need to make a decision.
before having DS I was all for daycare, since having him and getting to know him I don't know whether a smaller environment would be better. He seems to be better in one on ones, but I don't know if thats just cos he's used to it being just him and me.
I know this is all personal decisions, but interested to hear peoples thoughts pro and cons of either really.
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Posted: 08 September 2009 at 8:15pm |
Hey - this is a tough decision and one all parents struggle to make.
We did with our son Barnardos homecare to start with. Loved the caregive (she now looks after Grace) and the home environment she created for him and the time she had and could keep his routine the same as ours. Then when he turned 3 we put him into daycare, as when thought he nedded more structured play and a few new challenges with being in a big group. And we were lucky and it all went really well and he started at school no trouble. Yay, we are probably going to do the same with Grace.
Good luck making a decision - Listen to your gut reaction as that is usually the right one 
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Posted: 08 September 2009 at 8:56pm |
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I've had my boy in daycare since he was 5 months old - part time about 20 hours a week. He cries every time I leave him and since May has had measles, whooping cough, chest infections, ear infections ,diarrhea, throat infections, the flu and a vomiting but. If I could stop work tomorrow I would. I think babies get a lot less sick in home based care, because there are less babies. I have also had experiences of going to pick him up and finding him lying on the floor crying while the carers - who are lovely are too busy to help. I can't use home based care because I work funny hours, but I think I would recommend looking into it first.
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Posted: 08 September 2009 at 10:06pm |
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I'm going through the same thing at the moment Fiona & have decided that next year I'll put the boys in homebased care for the following reasons... obviously my personal views/opinion...
1) I visited a highly recommended childcare centre & there was such a difference between the under 18 months & over 2years childcare sections. The under 18mnth old babies just roamed around & not really socialising heaps with other babies (looked a little lost) they relied so much on the carers & didn't seem to get much out of the environment. Where as I would be more than happy to put the boys in when over 2 as all these kids were chassing each other & having such a fun social time together. I think in over 2's it could actually be beneficial to have this social interaction with others. Go & visit a few to get a feel for the different centres
2) My boys are quite clingy and even though they have each other I can envisage so many babies & different carers being unsettling for them. I like the more 1 on 1 care for them.
3) I want more freedom/ less stress to choose my working hours & have some leniance (spel sorry) in pick-ups & drop off times.
4) All the sicknesses that cause you to take time off work whereas they'll pick up less with homebased childcare
The downsides that I'm concerned with homebased care:
1) finding someone that I click with & I can fully trust & is on the same wavelength in terms of learning/ play/ discipline etc. I hear this can take a while to find the perfect person.
2) My boys are real routine babies at the moment so I need someone who can keep to the routine since it works so well for us. Hopefully they won't be sleeping so much by next year as they're still having 3 naps a day so I don't want them being dragged out to an activity if they need their sleep.
Sorry for the long post but it's exactly what I've been looking at at the moment so hopefully it helps. Goodluck.
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ElfsMum
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Posted: 09 September 2009 at 8:09am |
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twinboys2b....it is very normal for under 2's to roam around cause they aren't at the co-operative play stage.. but i know what you mean....and some people prefer a more structured environment..
as a pre school teacher i would recommend to go to a few places and see how you feel.. it's all on gut for me..at the place Ethan is up there are 8 under 2's and 14 overs and for me it's the right mix between pre school and the smaller environment I wanted but there aren't many pre-schools that small ...I'm not sure what to do when i go back to work or when Ethan is kindy age .. as it's reasonably structured where he is ..
but anyway I think it's great you are taking the time to see what suits him and to go with that as well:) many parents don't do that..
for sickness some kids do get super sick in the beginning but some are really fine..depends on a range of things really.. I am lucky in that I don't work so it's not an issue at the moment....
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Posted: 09 September 2009 at 1:26pm |
ice girl maybe homebased care can help i know kidstart barnardos caters for parents who work shift work or funny hours.
Some children are in care till 6.30 or 7pm and start early it just depends on the caregiver.
It's worth a ring to see if they can help you.
 They are all around newzealand, fees are reasonble too.
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Posted: 09 September 2009 at 2:56pm |
It would totally depend on the centre or the home based carer, although with Finley screaming and crying around other kids, dc may not be suitable as there are kids there
I personally havent found a carer id trust my most precious "posessions" with (apart from my Mum and she said no lol), so we waited till Issy was 17 months and put her in part time dc (DH works there but with the three year olds).
I like dc as I feel the children are safer with lots of adults around, big glass windows and no doors on the toilets, also Issy hasnt picked up more colds than when she didnt go.
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Posted: 09 September 2009 at 5:13pm |
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Im a home based carer.
The mother of the little baby I take care of has him in both daycare and with me on a wednesday - she says if she had the money she would have me full time. From what she's observed her son is much more settled on a Wednesday evening and isnt as clingy after being with me. He is still unsettled at daycare.
Porse promote their home based care - they tell parents that home based care and the "home environment" is better for a baby - as well as the one on one care they get. Being able to attach themselves to one person rather than several at a daycare is something they advise parents as well. I had Janaya in daycare however and she really thrived there. I did like the fact that she was with other adults, and I felt safe knowing that anything horrible happened there were plenty of other adults around. Where as in a home based care you really dont know...
I think the main thing is finding someone who is going to treat your child just as they would their own. Interview as many people as you can and go with your gut instinct.
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Posted: 09 September 2009 at 8:37pm |
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I have my wee one in daycare and she's been there since she was just on 5 months old. Like ice_girl's boy Gabrielle has been very sick this winter, although she's "just" had colds and 6 bouts of bronchiotis. Despite this I think she gets a lot out of being in daycare and she seems to enjoy it a lot. She gets excited when we get there and seems happy when I leave. I love that when we get there the toddlers come up and say hello to her and know her name. However, I have to say that we have had a few issues. Gabrielle is a very structured routine baby and she doesn't sleep well at daycare - they seem to have trouble getting her in to bed when she first shows tired signs although maybe I see the tired signs better coz she's my child and I focus on her whereas they have other kids to deal with too. She usually has 2 30 min sleeps at daycare whereas at home she has 2 1.5-2 hour sleeps. I also had some issues in the begining with them not following my requests, and not keeping to our feeding routine (ie feeding her at 12.30pm when her feed was due at 11am and she hadn't had anything since breakfast at 6am).
I think there are pros and cons to both daycare and home based care. For us the pros of daycare outweigh the cons - Gabrielle loves it, she loves the other kids and she really seems to like her main caregiver at daycare. I'm happy and feel comfortable with the centre and I guess that's what you have to find, whether it be at daycare or with an at home carer.
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Posted: 09 September 2009 at 10:08pm |
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I have Tom in daycare and he has attached himself to one teacher....we are trying to prise him away at present so he can mix with the bigger kids. He seems to really enjoy going and all the teachers are lovely and seem to like him.
I have decided to put James in homebased care as he has already had 2 ear infections this month and I dont want him getting everything under the sun. WE havent started but I think it will be good. I did think of putting Tom in homebased too but to be honest, I worry that he will a) wreck someones house and b) play up when he cant get attention...at least at daycare there are other things going on to amuse him.
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Posted: 10 September 2009 at 9:14am |
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Thanks so much for your comments ladies.
I am looking into both from this, seeing a daycare tomorrow and meeting with Porse on monday, I think he would be better suited to in home care, but don't want to rule out daycare, I do want him to be around other kids not just adults.
He is very clingy at the mo, not at home happily plays alone for ages, but clingy when out, probably just his age but I am going to take this carefully, so worried about stressing him out.
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Posted: 10 September 2009 at 11:54am |
You will find with porse he will get some contact with other kids -obviously not as much as he would with daycare but they do have playgroups during the week, and music sessions 
Best of luck!
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