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    Posted: 05 March 2009 at 12:48am
Does anyone have any information about sleep apnea in babies and what to look for, I was watching Abigail sleep earlier tonight and have noticed at times she wakes/stirs, I had thought she had wind or maybe a reflux type of thing as she seems to be gasping/gagging thru like a (what I thought) a saliva build up or something like that but when I was watching I think she was stopping breathing and I am starting to frighten myself as of course the last thing I want to happen is now constantly going thru my head.  I will be ringing my m/w tomorrow, I think she may even be coming out tomorrow will have to check, but any sort of information would be great thanks. 
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Hi check with your midwife, and call healthline if you are really concerned,
However it does sound normal, we all have this reflex that if we stop breathing we stir ourselves into breathing again, and this sounds like what Abigail is doing. Also newborns do have very irregular breathing, which gets better with time. If you are really worried, then it might be worth investing in a breathing alarm, but if your child wasn't premature and doesn't have any respiratory problems, then she should be ok. When James was newborn he would always make this high pitching choking noise that always worried me.

Anyway didn't want to read and run, hope you got some sleep last night, and if you are really worried, I would call Plunket or healthline for reassurance
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Do you have sleep apnea in your family? If you do get a alarm for your peace of mind.

My DH's aunt died of Sleep apnea & he has it also. It's characterised by snoring.

If they sleep on their side it is better. Not sure why but it definitely helps him, reduces the snoring & he also wakes up more refreshed.

He also has this nasty habit of stopping breathing while he's awake!! Then he does a big breath/sigh & I always ask what's wrong ( sounds like he's annoyed with me ) He always replies for got to breath

We sleep Cooper on his side & also have the Angelcare movement & sound monitor. We also did the same with Alia. I'm not sure what symptoms babies have though sorry.
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Willie has sleep apnoea too, he is on a CPAP machine at night for it and when he isn't on the machine it's scary to sleep with him coz he'll be snoring, then suddenly silent for a few seconds and then all of a sudden take a big, gasping breath .

It's very uncommon in babies, particularly newborns, altho in saying that, my Mercedes had two major apnoeic episodes as a baby that landed her in hospital, at three and five weeks. The first time I noticed her blue in her cot and picked her up and shook her to start her breathing again (not hard LOL!) and the second time her apnoea monitor went off. They think hers were reflux related, the second one was probably a reflux choking episode rather than a true apnoea.

I think a breathing monitor is a good idea, even if just for your peace of mind. I think you can hire them? We have the Respisense ($180) on lil miss, and also a Tommee Tippee Ultimate Reassurance under her mattress which we got on special for $200, so a lot cheaper than the Angelcare but works just the same.
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thanks, I did get sleep as she is in our room and when they are little, as I'm sure with most mums I turn into a really light sleeper. Dh & I both snore and both have times when we stop breathing during sleep.  I know I have woken myself up.  Will talk to mw today about it, not sure if its just me being paranoid or not, I don't remember this happening with the other two and in terms of being prem no she wasn't but was nearly 3 weeks earlier than the other girls & I had to fight with the Dr to get the c-section so close to my due date & he wasn't happy.

I had been putting her slightly on her side as I had done with my other girls but she seems to sleep more sound on her back.

Thanks for your comments and will see what I can find out.

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What about one of those Angelcare monitors with the pad you put on the mattress, it will alert you with an alarm if they stop breathing. They are a bit expensive but I have noticed a few for sale on TM
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hehehe, after listening to our paediatrician talking to a parent about this same thing today i can say that it's quite rare in babies to have true sleep apnoea for no apparent reason.

I can say though that it is normal for babies when sleeping to stop breathing for up to 15-20 seconds and then spontaneously restart.   Hence also, if you did end up getting an apnoea monitor - we always advise parents to set them on the 20 seconds alarm, as those who set them on the 10 second ones often go in to find a baby who may have taken a bit of a stop and is happily breathing away when they get in there (although no longer happily sleeping usually woken by the darn alarm!!)

Check baby out with the midwife if you are concerned certainly, but newborn breathing can be a bit interesting at times to say the least.

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From what I understand a baby having an apnoea will be blue and also hard to wake - so basically like Emma described. It doesn't sound like your little one is doing that but I agree if you're concerned get a monitor with a sensor pad because otherwise you'll never sleep lol!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bext1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2009 at 8:37pm
the twins had those apnoea mattresses at NICU and ALWAYS set them off, but they weren't true Apnoea, it was just them 'forgetting' to breathe for a sec the nurses said

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