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    Posted: 08 November 2010 at 7:10pm
WHY?! I feel like I am doing something wrong, that it shouldn't be THAT upsetting for him to go to sleep. He cries before every nap and every evening before bed and it is really getting me down    Tonight it has really gotten to me and I cried a little with him
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same here :)
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Thanks NandC, I feel just a little better
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And here, for ages. The thing that seems to be helping the most is having a really solid routine (it's not long, but it lets her know clearly what she's expected to do). It hasn't fixed it all though. It's horrible isn't it? I've cried sometimes too.
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Have you gone through a process of elimination as to why your babe might be crying? I've personally not been comfortable letting my babies go to sleep if they are upset to that degree (though I am just guessing from what you have written), a little bit of a grumble or grizzle sure, but screaming / crying usually means there is something else going on. That said, to me it is also logical that a little baby would want to go to sleep content and secure, and not be left alone - crying out is also a survival mechanism, babies primal instincts have not really changed in thousands of years, although our responses (as parents) to them have.
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HippyMama, of course I have ruled out everything, I wouldn't let him cry if he needed something! He is not sick (got him checked out by the Dr), he is dry, fed, and tired. I have no idea why he is doing it, but I can only think he doesn't want to sleep or doesn't want me to leave him. Either way, I hate it.
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DS has just started doing this too... and same deal, there's no reason why he would be crying, it's just when I go to put him down for a nap.

Does he cry as soon as you put him down? Or is it when you go to leave the room? It might be a bit of seperation anxiety perhaps? That's meant to hit around the 8-9 month stage. My DS is a bit young for that, but I'm thinking he's just realising that if he cries he'll get another cuddle before sleep.

It's definitely rough, espescially if you've had a good self-settler, and then it all changes! Hugs anyways, FX its a bit of a phase.
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It is really hard isn't it? We also have had a similar problem and still do on occasion. For us, he is particularly bad if he is overtired. Having said that he has never been a baby that will just fall asleep anywhere. For instance, he will never fall asleep in his bouncy chair or on his mat. I think to an extent your baby's personality will have something to do with how he sleeps.

I will second the routine part. I try to do the same thing each time so that he knows bedtime is coming and isn't surprised when I put him to bed. In fact, he settles the best at night because the routine is exactly the same every night and starts about an hour before he goes to bed. Both boys know that when Daddy gets home from work we start thinking about bath and bed. I then sit with J until he falls asleep so he can see me.

I will also let him cry for a couple of minutes if I am certain that everything is OK and that he is just overtired. 99% of the time he will be alseep in less than a minute. If he is really going for it then I pick him up, cuddle and reassure and then start the process again.

Also not sure how old your baby is but do you swaddle him? J is 6 1/2 months and I still swaddle him. Not all the time but if he is very tired, teething etc it really helps him to relax and he falls asleep much quicker.

Hopefully some of that might be useful, and if not rest assured you are not alone and this will pass!
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With us crying happens when:

-separation anxiety hit - was a phase and got over it with help of good routine and developmental changes.

-overtired or undertired - both cases crying is frustration. usually in our case the later during the day and the former in the evenings. If it seems undertired I try again later or over tired, give her lots of cuddles, every 5-10 mins.
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I didn't mean to cause any offence with my earlier question, but sometimes in our anxiety and rush to soothe an upset baby things can get left of the 'list' (of what might be upsetting them).

I too don't know your babe's age offhand but would second the suggestion of separation anxiety, or teething? There are a lot of good homeopathic remedies out there for both things (as I am more prone to reach for the natural remedies myself than the pharmaceuticals).

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For a while my boy cried before he went to sleep, it was almost like a fighting to go to sleep, he also did it in the car before he went to sleep. I always turn to see what was wrong & he was out to sleep. He cried longer in the cot though, ie few mins though, nothing over 5 mins. He's grown out of it now.

So maybe it's just your baby's way of getting to sleep???? or is it a longer period of crying?
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I had this with my youngest and it turned out he was just getting overtired. I was truely amazed when one day I watched the clock closely and didn't let him stay up longer that the recommended time at his age. I put him into bed and he just lay there and went to sleep. I couldn't beleive it.

How old is he?
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At what point does the crying start? Is it before he goes in his cot or when you leave? If it's when you leave, what if you do something like stay in the room sitting on a chair, or take a step back from self settling and put him down a bit more drowsy?

Those might not be very helpful for encouraging self settling but might help stop some of the crying? Then gradually ease off the amount you're there or helping him to sleep over a few weeks.

For us, from quite young as soon as I lay him down to be swaddled and then later his sleeping bag he'd start to get upset and the same with a few of the other steps leading up to sleep. Sometimes I'm not sure if it's a hurry up I want to go to sleep now, or he thinks he doesn't want too. DS calms down as soon as he gets his bottle (reversing the order doesn't seem to work either)

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If it is separation aniexty - I found it eaiser to do if I tried to remain calm (yep - rescue remedy is good for this). I'm prone to anxiety myself so I just had to breathe thru and seem happy. My bub senses when I'm uptight and it makes her nervous too.
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Yep we have crying here alot of nights too,although it's gotten much better as Clodagh has gotten older...but def took well over a year (sorry). I think it's also seperation anxiety.  all you can do is try to remain calm (SO SO hard I know!), and reassure them lots.....argh it will pass but ((hugs)) while you're going through it. Very tricky. And tiring!

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I can only think separation anxiety as we had this recently and it was exactly the same and I was at the same point as you - starting to cry and wondering why! Honestly for us playing peek and boo and where's mummy really helped. Especially covering my head with the blanket in front of her and calling 'where's mummy?' and she's get so excited when she found me!
Of course every now and then she does have a scream/cry when I go to leave but it's not all the time anymore!

And as others have said, and easier said than done, remain calm. How does he react to singing? Lily loves this and it's a great way for us to both calm down!
Also one other idea which may or may not take your fancy - wearing baby... May hate it first few times but I have found it on the odd occasion to be great!
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I agree 100% with millymollymandy has said. We have just been thru the separation anxiety stage and it got to the point that I really feared putting her to bed as I knew she was going to scream. She could obviously sense my anxiety, and therefore, she became more anxious. So I just had to suck it up and be more relaxed and slowly but surely we got there. But that was after over a month of her not sleeping (at all) during the day...... she would just scream and scream so I'd get her up.
We are all good now tho and she goes to bed without a peep (maybe just a small grizzle). One other thing that seems to have made things better is she isn't swaddled anymore (she weaned herself from it) and now takes her favourite teddy to bed with her so I guess that is comforting to her.
It's tough but will get better
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Do not cry, everything is fixable! Try using Shem's sleep tracker! We just started using it. We have been using it for a couple of weeks and the results are already noticeable. The baby stopped waking up at night, the sleep became more calm! But we are still working on daytime sleep) I recommend you to try the Shema tracker: there are so many beautiful calm melodies and useful articles.
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