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    Posted: 06 August 2007 at 3:46pm
But my question is - does it matter?
After months of commando creeping backwards, Sienna has decided her preferred method of moving is bottom shuffling. She puts her hands in front of her and rocks backwards and forwards so that she moves. She gets all around the house, and she's pulling up to stand on the furniture, so does it matter if she doesn't crawl?
Mum did developmental therapy with both my brother and sister and is insistent that crawling is a vital stage for development of spacial awareness and that I should be doing crawling patterning with her, but my sister who is doing ECE training reckons that there's no evidence to support that.
Oh and Mercedes doesn't crawl properly either, she's happy to creep around backwards.
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My MIL is a SPARC tutor, and does private reading recovery teaching with lots of children of different ages and abilities (some just need a little extra help, like my sister who can't spell to save herself, some have learning difficulties). She said she often gets the children to crawl around her lounge, because it helps their reading ablility. Apparently crawling makes connections that help with reading in some way. I'll ask her about bottom shuffling, if you like.
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isnt crawling related to using both sides of the brain together? the whole left/right concept starts from there i believe.....

and the spatial awareness is a big thing, dhs cousin who never crawled has broken his collarbone so many times from falling, and not being able to stop himself - as ridiculous as that seems!
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jade was a bum shuffler, it was gorgeous. i wasnt concerned about it at all. she did learn to crawl eventually- about 17 months!!! lol, she learnt to walk before crawling! she is fine developmentally too, i did see on the nought to five programme that they recommend a cetain number of hours crawling before walking for something, but it hasnt affected jade...
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get maya to crawl round after the kids, save your knees! at the end of the day if they dont want to crawl no matter how much you show them they just wont.
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She probably will learn to crawl at some stage. Hannah crawled and walked within a few weeks so hardly ever ccrawled, but she does quite a bit now in playing.
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Oh, just remembered: MIL said it doesn't really matter what order they do things, just that they do it eventually
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The interesting thing is that my grandma reckons my mum never crawled, she was a shuffler, and my sister was a shuffler too and now they are both really clumsy so maybe that's coz they never developed spacial awareness?
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Okay, I rung my MIL but she's teaching at the moment so she'll ring me back in an hour. I'll let you know what she says!
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Thanks Becca!
And good to know my girls aren't the only lazy bones and that they do eventually get it! Maya crawled at 8 1/2 mths and walked at 10, the gremlins are 10 months in a week or so and nowhere near walking, I'll be surprised if they're walking by 13-14 mths the rate they're going
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Totally unhelpful, but ooooh bum shuffling is SO cute!
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I don't think it matters. Hannah didn't crawl until 10mos and 3 weeks later decided against it, in favour of walking (with us holding her hands). Took another two months before she could walk independently

Now she's 3 1/2 and is so interested in learning stuff that she knows the ABC song, can count to 50, can recognise and say any 2-digit number, and I've recently started her on a reading series (bearing in mind that I plan to homeschool her anyway) and can fluently read words and sentences such as: here is Jane, Come here Pat, This is for you, I like the toy shop.... actually sometimes there's no stopping her LOL
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I bet she looks so cute shuffling across the floor Alize used to roll instead of crawl all over the place. That was hilarious He crawled about a week later so she may crawl once she has mastered the art of shuffling. I wonder if Mercedes will copy or she may just crawl, then Sienna might copy her.


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I dont think it matters. Some babies dont ever crawl...they just work out the most efficient way to do something and then start walking. Maybe yours are just more ingenious!
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Originally posted by Maya Maya wrote:

The interesting thing is that my grandma reckons my mum never crawled, she was a shuffler, and my sister was a shuffler too and now they are both really clumsy so maybe that's coz they never developed spacial awareness?

Yep my mum is proud of the fact I never crawled and I am the most unco, accident prone person I know (see my recent thread about driving the car into the back of the garage if you need proof), but i read real good
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My BIL didn't crawl and has a speech impediment apparently because of it - something to do with that part of a babies speech developing at the same time? I don't think I believe it though because apparently I only crawled for a couple of days & I am fine! Well I think I am Anyway, go gremlins I say

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Paris was a shuffler, thing is she never rolled or tried to roll or crawled or anything at all hence our dilema.. all she could do was sit.. and then shuffle.

eventually she did start to stand at things.. then went back and did a little normal crawling and a learnt to roll.. but we did (me and daycare) focus on that and do little exercises and coditioning as you called it, basically taking her through the motions bit by bit of how to roll etc first, then how to crawl as we had heard the same thing about cross-over of the brain and stuff. she only did that for maybe a week or so (not long enough..) but then just got up and walked. so i did encourage things like pretending to be animals etc every once in a while just to get the crawling thing happening and well-developed but she was about 17 months at that stage not a wee dot like your little chickie..

If she wants to shuffle, she will.. and despite all of my efforts i found that if she doesn't want to crawl you can hold her there etc until you go blue.. it won't work well, if at all.

I have found though that compared to Ayja, who crawled fairly early-ish.. Paris is terribly unco-ordinated with some things.. ie riding a bike, it had only just happened, cos for the longest time she couldn't co-ordinate her legs taking turns etc to get the peddles moving.





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James started of bum shuffling first then went to crawling so she still could crawl no he does both but crawls more now.




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I have talked extensively to Gaz's mum who is a teacher about this and she says crawling is pretty important but that it doesn't matter what age it happens. So don't fret too much, they'll crawl later.

She also said that developmentally it was important for kids to do things like hang upside-down on monkey bars etc and that schools getting rid of those sorts of things because of the potential danger was going to have an effect down the line... of course that isn't yet proven, but interesting.
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crawling is pretty important for training both sides of the brain to work at once..but often doesn't matter as much in girls as they are prone to enjoy things like monkey bars, which have the same effect. What you can do if she doesn't crawl properly before she walks is when she is bigger play lots of crawling games..lots of schools now provide perceptual motor programmes for children that have trouble with reading and writing and the un-official statistics point to the fact that alot of the kids in this programmes didn't crawl properly...

 

Professional hat off............................bum shuffling is soooo cute..


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