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avidkeo
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Posted: 25 May 2013 at 12:49pm |
Nell, Im sorry that you had to have such a hard conversation, though like Porter said, its soooo much better when its out in the air! It can be incrediably frustrating when they arent being open with us about issues, its even harder when they arent being open with THEMSELVES! I really hope that now you can move on and it all improves! Men!!! (she says rolling her eyes!) and again thank you for sharing, its a very brave thing to do, but I am starting to see its definatley more normal for men to get "performance anxiety"! It really bugs me now with those ladies who are all "oh we BD 3 days in a row then twice a day during ov!" That really doesn't work in our house, its a once a day at the most for us!!!!! sorry to anyone reading if that's you, I'm really happy that your man is good like that for you!!!!!
Porter, Yay for licence!! It took me 8 years to get off my restricted to my full, so that's a really common thing as well! I had to do mine before I went to the UK so its so much better now! We were also "Wait till X is over" before starting trying, We have been together for almost 13 years now, it took him 10 years to get ready for baby, but then I was in the middle of my degree as well. You still have plenty of time, but like the others, I would also insist on getting checked out sooner rather than later! I had tests for PCOS at the end of last year because a sonographer made a passing comment that I "might" be a bit polycystic, but they were all negative. Im going to give it 6 months then start annoying doctors.
AFM, DH finished work yesterday at 2:30am (well, this morning), crawled into bed (freezing cold) and decided that was a good moment!!!!!!!!!! so better late than never, but FF thinks I ovulated on Wednesday. So BD on Sunday morning, ov wed, then BD Friday night/sat morning. Talk about missing the window!!!!!!!! I actually think I ov thursday cause wed I got the positive OPK and thurs is when I had EWCM but hey what do I know! Thursday I was also really bloated. So I am letting this month go - should be an easy TWW, and see what happens next month. I have plans of a romantic evening next month where I'm not going to give him a chance to say no! he he he.
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Posted: 26 May 2013 at 6:21pm |
Hello ladies I trust the weekend has been well for all of you? Question has anyone used Femaprin or Vitex I'm looking at it on the baby4you website and I'm quite keen but would love to hear any recommendations or just anything? I'm getting a little impatient and a little worried I no it can take time once you've been on the pill for so long but I stopped at the start of the year and now it's nearly June so I'm like ohh no what if my system just needs a kick??? And just another moan DF and I have been eating so well the last week cut out all caffeine and cut down on sugar and then I've had 4 days of diahorrea so it's really put me off BD ing lol
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Posted: 26 May 2013 at 7:46pm |
Hi everyone, I also hope people had a good weekend too. We have a lovely group of friends and had an awesome potluck dinner last night. Was so much fun! I am back at CD1 as of today so good to look forward to the next cycle and countdown to the next available window for ovulation. This will be our first big month of trying (last month was officially the first month but I got a bad head cold right when the timing was right so we were out of the running!!!). Well, OV the Sunday and BD the previous Wed night so bit too much of a gap I think!!! Hoping June will be our month - esp since I am due to ovulate exactly on my birthday if I follow last month's cycle!!!!! Ha ha!!! :) Monkeydiva, I know it's hard not to be impatient - sorry to hear about you having diarrhoea - it can be a bit of a mood killer, can't it!!!! I went off the pill in March but we didn't stop using contraception til last month.
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 12:24am |
OMG.... I mean seriously look at these posts YIKES obsessed much!! Most of you guys have been trying for one - six months... try 3 years honey and see how you feel then!! Stop with the charting it WILL make you CrAzY and it's total bullsh*t and a BIG waste of time anyway. Drink wine have fun and stop being an obsessed weirdo stop counting down to ovulation have sex for fun and just be normal. If you don't make sex fun trust me on this your man won't be into it at all esp at ovulation nothing more of a turn off than oh we have to do it today now actually as my body temperature and OPK says I'm ovulating. It becomes mechanical and boring is that what you want your sex life to become SNAP OUT OF IT. For Gods sake STOP with that sh*t and take a hard look at what you've become you're all turning into crazy people!! Do men find crazy desperate women attractive hell no they don't!! So relax spice it up and get sexy plan a dirty weekend or a holiday forget about everything else that's for freakn weirdos. The one thing I do recommend get on to the Dr's at the 6 month mark but I warn you most will make you wait 12 months before they do anything in NZ govt health rules all GPs told me the same thing another Dr won't make a difference they see your file they ask you the same questions and you will get the same answer you got from all of them save yourselves the time and $. When you go to see them first appointment and this is really important tell them you have been trying 12 months when you go and see them or pay the price. I HAVE WAITED 3 DAMN YEARS yip 12 month mark couldn't lie she could see when she stopped prescribing me the pill DAMN IT!! I demanded a referral to gynaecologist then relocated had to go through it all again FSH tests sperm tests etc... 12 months through gynae really invasive tests the works before I could finally get referral to Fertility Clinic which was a 5 month wait to get in and that's just the 1st appointment there are many all with a wait. So you'd better toughen up and get prepared for the fight of your life it's not for the impatient control freak if you are that person the waiting lists will break you. It's an emotional rollercoaster and is not for the faint hearted only the tough get through IVF in one piece marriage still intact you need to be sure your relationship is strong enough to take it fortunately mine is. It doesn't always happen naturally for us girls over 35 and all the tests ect take a long time don't wait act NOW. PS start saving private appointments for IVF are $180 each looking at $12,000 a cycle for private. As for public some qualify for it some don't depends how much you earn and what your diagnosis / reason for infertility is etc if you have endo or PCOS get onto it quickly time is a factor for you guys and often they will bump you up the list if you nag them as you guys are high risk. But keep in mind IVF doesn't work for everyone you have to be real about it and go in to it with your eyes wide open dreamers get their dreams crushed every day this is really hard on you you have to be sure you're strong enough to take it. You have to really want it for all the right reasons to do it and you need a rock solid man by your side that can support you through it all. Best of luck hope you do not have to go through hell like I have.
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 9:40am |
Hopeful, I am sorry that it has been such a hard road for you, and it sounds like things have been very tough. I am glad that you and DH are coping with the situation and really hope that things happen for you.
This forum is a safe place for ladies to vent our frustrations, support each other through difficult times, as well as share our joy. I concede that yes I have only been trying a couple of months and really have no idea what it would be like to have tried for 3 years.
In saying that, please respect our need to vent or discuss difficult issues in a safe and non judgmental environment. The reason that I am obsessed with charting/opks at the moment is that I am getting to know my body, know what is right with it. I also know that if/when I ever go to a doctor about this then I will be fully armed with all the information I will need. Now that I am through my initial obsession, I am relaxing more, and know that DH is fully on the same page as me. I know for me having discussed some difficult situations over the last few days has made me feel a LOT more relaxed about the whole process - and it was only discussing it with others and realising I am not the only one that has helped me relax.
I understand you are frustrated with things but please remember this is a place to be caring and supportive, not telling us off. Everyone is different and does things in different ways. The most important thing is we are here for each other no matter what.
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 1:18pm |
Nice response avid. I agree, hopeful, I appreciate that is not been that long but I think your post was over the top with the capitals and disrespectful to how the rest of us are feeling. You don't know what we do to make the time fun, but I think most of the issues stem from it being not at all. This has always been an issue for us with mismatched libidoes, so excuse me for wanting to get the timing right. I would prefer you were less directly mean in your posts, else this is not a safe place for me
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 1:31pm |
Lurker in!!!
Im with you porterlou and avidkeo... Oh Baby is supposed to be a supportive community. Keep your chin up girls! x
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 1:45pm |
Hi Ladies, just catching up on the posts  Hey Jessica - of course you can join us here  hopefully your stay is a short one! Thanks Porter and Avid, me and DH were much better then next day. I think he was happy he vented and now I know what's going on inside his head. We had a good weekend  Sorry Monkey I don't know much about Femaprin or Vitex. Maybe make a new thread and you'll get people who see it and can help? OV on your birthday would be fun Lovebeingamummy! ___________________________ Hopeful, I'm glad Avid responsed on our behalf first. Because she was truely lovely and patience with her words. I'm sorry your journey has been hard and I realise your post is all about you and you haven't really given thought to the others on here. Otherwise you'd realise that everyones journey is different. You have no idea how long people have been waiting to TTC. Charting may not have worked for you but it works for plenty of others. Everyone has different personalitys and calling people weirdos doesn't help. Seems to me you're the odd one out in this group. Not us. You also don't know how many losses some ladies have had in their journey, so telling people to toughen up is rather rude. To be honest I can't be bothered trying to explain life and the world to you. I hope your bitterness doesn't rub off on people you know in RL and this was just a one off vent.
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 1:55pm |
Welcome Jessica!! Newbies are always welcome! Lovebeing, oh how fun to Ov on your birthday! hope you have a good one!  Nell, I'm so glad that things are looking up! Sometimes that's all it takes, a really good vent! and Im sure your weekend was very good  DH and I had a similar thing happen yesterday where he asked me about ovulation, I think his words were "are you really only fertile for 3-4 days every month?" which lead to the whole yes lets make sure we have fun, but also try to pinpoint those days as well. I assured him I wasn't going to pester him for the whole week, just one or two in that time, and he was happy with that. He was really worried I was going to demand it every single day for a week! It takes him a couple of days to digest things when I tell him, then he asks the questions, and we move on. While this can be very frustrating (Im the "ive made a decision in a heartbeat person" it is a good balance. One thing I said is that if we timed things well, we may find out we are pregnant the same weekend we move into our new house (assuming that happens we would settle in 6 weeks, so 4 weeks till next ov and the 2ww!), he got excited at that and said that would be fate!
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 6:39pm |
Wow............. Hopeful, YIKES, bitter much??! In all seriousness Hopeful, I am sincerely sorry to hear that you've had such a struggle. I truly do sympathise with your struggle, and understand your need to vent your frustration... But I don't understand the need to do it at the expense of others feelings. This isn't a competition of whose been trying for the longest, nor is it a place to belittle people, pass quick judgements or tell people how they should go about their TTC journey! As Avid said, it's a safe and supportive forum for ladies (or men!!) to vent, laugh, cry, and be supportive no matter the circumstances! Please realise, you don't actually know any of these ladies, you don't know their journeys.. Everyone has a different story.. Many have experienced heartbreak and have lost babies.. Some have been TTC for a long time, yet some have been TTC for a short time.. Everyone is different and no story is the same! But who are you to say that before X amount of time TTC, a lady doesn't have the right to vent their frustration or express their desires? As Nell so rightly said above, charting may not be for you (clearly!!) but for some, it is great! And brings a sense of awareness! As for your attempt to "educate" us on what turns our partners on/off (not that I feel the need to explain my personal choices to you.. But it appears that you need to gain some perspective..) I am a charter, and no, not an " obsessed weirdo" as you so delightfully described us (thanks for that) My partner personally loves the charting concept.. He reminds me to take my temp most mornings.. We have fun with it -he tries to guess my temp, if i miss a day it isn't the end of the world, so yeah we like it and it works for us, to us it simply is what it is - its just 'helpful information'. We have a strong relationship, and a perfectly healthy and fun sex life!! And, if 1 or 2 years down the line TTC hasn't been a success for us, I'll be armed with a plethora of information that I will be pleased I have gathered and I'll be thankful for charting  (And you better believe I'd vent on these forums along the way!!) Once again Hopeful, so sorry for the rough ride you have had.. But please be more sensitive/understanding to these ladies next time! Anyway.. Happy Monday ladies! Hope you all have a great week this week.. Long weekend coming :) Yay Avid - So funny when guys realise the fertile period is so short! Bless!! Sending positive vibes your way and hope you get that BFP soon!
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 7:16pm |
Ladies, you have summed it up well - that this should be a supportive place where we celebrate and encourage each other and have true understanding of how this TTC business can be both exciting and terrifying and confusing and all-absorbing (all at the same time sometimes)
Hopefull - as someone who has also been TTC for over 3 years now I am a charter and I continue to learn so much about my body and it's cycles - and I continue to be in awe of how my body works, thanks to my paying such close attention to it over the last years. I do understand how it can be a massive rollercoaster and emotionally challenging (often!) but I still like to think I can encourage others - not let my own despair colour others' efforts. Good luck with it all hun. We are all actually here to help
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 7:46pm |
Ladies, you all summed up what I would have said to Hopeful. As a newbie, Hopeful must not understand how Oh Baby works. These forums are the most supportive forums I have ever been on; a place where it is safe to vent and be supported. If you want to have debates and a bitch-fest, then please move to a Facebook forum. No-one here needs to be told off for doing whatever they are doing to get through.
On another note, Hi, I am new to this thread and think it's most fitting for me right now. I usually hang in the 2WW thread because of it's activity. We are not TTC right now. After 2 m/c we are now with FA. I have surgery booked next week to remove polyps and then after that, will start on Clomid to get the second half of my cycle behaving a bit better. Looking forward to getting to know some of you along the way.
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 8:25pm |
Hi tan Good luck with your surgery next week! You are in the right place on here
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 8:38pm |
Hi ladies... how are you all getting on. I regret my earlier post, I was having not a great afternoon and my reaction was nowhere near as patient as the rest of you. Sorry about that, I took offense to someone suggesting because I might chart I might be obsessed and therefore completely not making it fun. I must remember those are Hopefuls issues, not mine. Must not rise to the bait... Anyway...no more airtime for that. Had my final lecture this morning, presentations and got our assignment 2 marks back. Managed to pass despite the 7 hours too late assignment, so thats good. Just the exam to go- the trick is to keep studying, even if the exam is 3 weeks away. Also, bought some pre-seed today, so looking forward to trying that out. Really should have listened to Nell and got my act together sooner...I bought it from a chemist and I am not going to tell you how much they "stole" from me. I'll get it online next time Nell, I promise! Right, Avid...230am aye...what a lovely "midnight snack"  Fastest way to warm him up, I spose (I know, I know, how cheeky of me!)...stink if you've missed the window but at least it was fun huh. Monkey, how did you go on cutting out the caffeine? I was thinking I might cut it out too, although the thought of giving up my morning long black is quite scary sounding (I love the taste of coffee!!!). I tried today but caved by the afternoon. LBAM - maybe June'll be fate for you (ov'ing on your bday), just like avid might with her new house! Hi to newbies (waves) [side note, is there a "waving smiley"?] Excitement in our house. We are watching some 80's thing on NatGeo. By we I mean DF. By excitement I mean yay
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 8:40pm |
tan73 wrote:
I have surgery booked next week to remove polyps and then after that, will start on Clomid to get the second half of my cycle behaving a bit better. Looking forward to getting to know some of you along the way. | Good luck Tan, thinking of you.
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 9:02pm |
Oh porter you made me laugh so hard!!! midnight snack! very good! I started watching that 80s thing - only got half way through the first ep because of prior engagements, but felt it was a bit of "we are america, look how cool we are" which put me off, but ill proabably watch cause Im a complete nerd!! and by nerd, I mean I understand E=MC2. Oh, and I think your response was very honest and totally appropriate! AFM just found out someone at work who started trying the same time as us has already got preg!!!! and they are still breastfeeding their first! I know we are only at the very beginning of this journey, but seriously!!!!! So happy for the couple as they are so lovely, but come on! hehe. I wont deny I'm a little envious (hello green monster!) but also incredibly happy for them. Monkey, cutting out caffeine, wow! I don't have a huge amount of coffee or anything but need that kick in the morning!
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 9:03pm |
Wow what a busy place this has been today! And we'll said ladies you've said all that needs to be said so we can move on and carry on supporting each other cos that's what we are hear for. It sounds like everyone is busy with each day ticking along I find my hardest is my 2nd day off afternoon my mind starts wandering and I'm forever finding baby things whether its new posts on Facebook or ads in magazines and then I'm like arghh DF come home so we can BD lol Porter cutting out the caffeine wasn't to bad I found I really didn't feel at all like it the week before AF came I had such bad nausea just the smell of coffee made me gag I'm usually a coke girl thou and I didn't even feel like that! I am struggling with cutting down on sugar thou I've always had such a sweet tooth but the ultimate reward will be at the end of this and hopefully soon
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 9:06pm |
oh Im a sweet tooth!! to the extremm! In Feb I decided to cut down on all the added sugar to my diet (none in coffee, or on cereal etc) and also joined WW, and lost 10kg in 14 weeks. feel so much better!
Porter, ment to say in my last post congrats on passing your papers!!! good luck in the final exam! as a recent graduate (OMG that was 6 months ago, really???) I fully feel where you are coming from!
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 9:14pm |
Yay for the tone being lifted after that terrible diatribe from 'Hopeful'!!! Hopeful, if you want to be part of this forum you will need to respect some ground rules - including common courteousy and a lack of assumptions about any of us in this group (you don't know any of our stories!). There is nothing wrong with going about this TTC in any way we see fit. Please don't put your own issues around this area onto us!
Hello to all the newbies!!! I have found this forum an awesome place to chat, bond over our shared experiences and laugh together about this whole journey! It's great to share these moments with others going through the same thing. Welcome! :)
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 9:21pm |
Best of luck Tan Porter - Nothing wrong with your response, just a natural reaction!
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