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 Posted: 31 May 2006 at 6:56am |
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Yup, but I was meaning that most people don't avoid it altogether, and that there are risks with absolutely everything.
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my2angels
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 7:55am |
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newmum no that was not at all directed at you or anyone, didnt mean for it to sounds like I was pointing the finger hence why I said I found it hard to explain. I just think everyone needs to make informed decisions but not just sit back and let others take the risks either. I personally think in general the side effects risk is out weighed by the risk of the actual disease and yeah kids might still get the disease they have been immunised for but how many didnt get it because they were immunised but would have if they hadnt been. Also I know Kobes preschool had to see his immunisation cert before they would let him go there and I like that because it means the other kids there have been immunised too
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 8:50am |
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I am all for Vit K and immunisations. I know there are potential risks to imms and I have had two patients who had the most severe reaction possible to them (intellectually and physically very very disabled). And because of these two people I was a bit nervous about imms but the way I looked at it was that is 2 people out of all those that I know and I only know of them because of my job. For us, the benefits far outweigh the risks.
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emeldee
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 10:54am |
hehehe - this is a contentious topic - next we should move onto something sedate like politics - or religion 
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Two Blondinis
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:13am |
 What did I start here then?!?!?!? LOL
I'm reading up on the jabs now and the Vit K article on the Parents Centre site goes on about these 4 studies in the UK that looked at the injections, 2 said link to cancer was not confirmed and the other 2 said the risk increased! It also says that given orally carries a lower risk of cancers but they also can't be sure that baby gets the correct dose due to vomitting up the meds, therefore putting bubs at risk again!
AND... babies that are exclusively breastfed are more at risk than bottle fed as the formula is Vit K enriched. So in conclusion each option has it's own risks if you do or if you don't!
Does anyone know where you can find any statistics on what the "norm" is in NZ? By the looks of the posts on here the injections are common-ish
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Roksana
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:16am |
Maree...I think we have already done that too....atleast religion was done a while back.....he he ha ha ....we are so broad minded and intelligent!!! 
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:30am |
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This one talks more about the UK kiddie leukemia study...
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/PUarticles/vitk.htm
and this is from the NZ Kids Health Site:-
http://www.kidshealth.org.nz/index.php/ps_pagename/contentpage/pi_id/141
I couldn't find anything about the numbers, but I'm guessing it is pretty high.
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:55am |
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I'm just reading through all the info on Vit K now as my MW gave me a whole lot on Monday. At this stage we are thinking the oral form if a straight forward birth, if a traumatic birth (ventouse, forceps, c-section etc) then possibly the injection form. I'm only a little over 13 week so lots of time to decide!! Just one of the many decisions to be made in the next 6 months.
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Anna
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:56am |
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I am gonna risk all and say: Quinn had the vit K injection and is fully immunised up to 15 months BUT i won't get him the menigitis vaccine. It was a big decision for me, I did a LOT of reading, both NZ and international sources and decided that I did not want him to have it.
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 12:01pm |
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It's so confusing isnt it - my midwife referred me to 2 sites:
www.immune.org.nz and www.ias.org.nz - both say differetn things (I think that was her point)and I really cant decide at this point which way I lean...
and it's such an IMPORTANT decision...oohhh I guess it's just the start of a long line of hard decisions eh?
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Roksana
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 12:10pm |
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Sure is Mrs Frantic.........
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 12:11pm |
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Anna, I respect that you did your research before deciding not to give Quinn the meningitus vaccine. I also respect that you have simply stated your decision and are not trying to influence others.
My mother decided not to get my brother and sister (both are at high school) immunised against meningitus, as she "had a bad feeling about the vaccine". She freely admitted it was just a gut reaction, but she still tried to convince Nat and myself not to give our kids the immunisations because of her "bad feeling". At the time, Kiya was already fully immunised and Josiah had one shot to go! Mum has since changed her mind, but now my sister (who's 15) doesn't want to be immunised and I think it might be because Mum bad-mouthed the vaccine for over 6 months.
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 12:22pm |
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The Hep B vaccine came out when I was at primary and they did a mass-immunisation program, but Mum wouldn't let us have it then as she said it was too new and the side effects and stuff hadn't been tested long term. I chose as an adult to have the Hep B vaccine, but by that stage it had been around 10+ years and I was confident that it was ok.
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 12:28pm |
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lol Emma it came out when i was at high school and i decided i didnt want it (lol scared of needles). But then i got a job in health and i had to have it as an adult.
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my2angels
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Posted: 31 May 2006 at 4:12pm |
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Anna can I ask, and not at all questioning your decision more just out of curiosity was there anything specific that made you decide not to get the menz jab done? Im always worried I may have missed some major detail when making these sort of decision.
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