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    Posted: 28 July 2009 at 5:08pm
I just need to get this off my chest....

I've been taking Harry to toddler gym for the last term, and he really loves it. The other mums are really good and the kids just mainly explore the equipment and do what they want (which is good cos they're 1 - 2 year olds).

Today there was a new lady who hadn't been there before - her little boy and another were in this round foam thing kinda shaped like a donut with a hole in the middle. The kids always climb in there and throw the balls around and stuff. So anyway Harry was leaning on it, kinda leaning on her little boy cos he was there too - the other little boy was fine, no grizzling or anything, and he wasn't getting hurt. So this other mum lifts my boy up and moves him back!! Without even saying anything!

I was so surprised, he wasn't doing anything wrong - and she didn't even say anything to him. So I just said to Harry "just make sure you're gentle honey"' even though he was (I was standing about a foot away the entire time, just watching - I don't wanna be a helicopter parent, but I definitely intervene if he's being too rough or takes something off another toddler).

I just kinda let it go. Then it happened again about 10 mins later. They were inside the foam circle thing, the little boy was climbing out and Harry was kinda pushing on his back - not a hard push, it was kinda firm but it wasn't fast IYKWIM... and the other boy wasn't upset at all about it.   It's a normal 18 month old thing to do, the kids at gym are often touching each other, and they're all used to it. So this same mum moves my child away again!!!

I just thought man, I would never move someone elses kid away -- if I thought my kid was in danger I'd move HIM, and only if he was getting upset or hurt (like the other kid was hitting or pushing or something). And I'd say to the other kid 'just use gentle hands honey' - she didn't say anything to me or my child, just picked him up and moved him back. I'm sure she's nice enough and probably just a bit precious about her child, but I don't think it's ok! Harry wasn't bothered by it, just his sensitive mummy (seriously, I nearly cried!!).

I'm still really annoyed about it. Is this preggie hormones in overdrive, would you be annoyed if it was your child? (yes this is permission to be honest and tell me if you think it's no big deal!!)
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I was reading that thinking it was a bit "overprotective" of her to be moving him, then I realised she was moving Harry! So I dont think that is ok really... I didnt think it was Ok to touch someone elses child, especially if he wasnt in danger?
And congrats on the pregnancy!!!
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Yep, I dont think its ok to touch anyone elses child .. I would have said something (probably whilst holding back post pregnancy hormonal tears)

On a side note .. its toddler gym .. tell her to harden up otherwise her son will never grow up to be an all black ..
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I wouldn't be impressed either , i think you have a right to be upset, ....and not just blaming it on the preggy hormones .
I especially don't like the way she didn't tell Harry WHY she was moving him ,how confusing for him , if shes going to do that , at least give him a reason why



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OMG her son is going to be such a momma's boy at that rate. I think she was totally overreacting but I think if you weren't pregnant you would be more likely to laugh it off (this coming from a hormonal pregnant woman )

Weird woman though - hope she chills out for everyone's sake.

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omg ..she'll end up like a patients mum at my work .

This boy is 17 ..and his mum holds his hand for the littlest thing , and one day , i heard her telling him that he has to eat his lunch at school , and when he said it "wasnt his fault" (not sure how that works ,but hey ) , she said his school , needs to make sure he is eating his lunch .
Primary school , perhaps, college ? they should know how to eat their own lunch without needing prompting

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I wouldnt have been impressed because there was no reason for it but i wouldnt mind another mother moving josh for a good reason or playing with him if because i do with other kids at our kiddie gym group to teach josh to play nice with others   
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Thanks guys. Totally agree wrx, I'm more than happy when other parents play with Harry (in fact I think it's really nice) - and I wouldn't have minded them moving him out of the way if he was hitting or biting (though if it was me I'd just pick up Harry if he was being hit or bitten). And I wouldn't mind if he was being rough and other parents reminded him to be gentle (nicely). I think I can get over it now I've vented and other people understand!!

Oh and thanks Kaiz
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OMG Liz - I just noticed your ticker!!! Congrats
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yes HUGE CONGRATS LIZ!!!   Sorry, your ticker overshadowed your post .....But...yep,I'd be a bit miffed too. Oh well, at least Harry didnt care.
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We go to a class like this, but I only step in if Oli is being rough with the others (or hitting or biting), but if someone is being rough with him (or hitting or biting), I would NEVER move them, I would just move Oli away and say something to other child...like "lets use our gentle hands" or something like that. I would only ever pick up someone elses child if it was hurt or clearly distressed.. and certainly not without telling the child what I was doing and why.

I really hope this lady chills out - but I would def say something to her if she does it again. No need to be agressive - I would just say something like "Its okay, Harry wasnt hurting him, they can all play together"......

 

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I would have bitten!!!! How rude - she should never have touched your child. If she had a problem she could have removed her own child or perhaps she could have asked you to help out! Next time maybe REMOVE her child and see how she would react. Definately not cool.
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Definitely not OK with it - she's overreacting and her son will never learn adequate social skills.

Our jobs as parents are to guide our kids to make appropriate decisions for themselves, and that starts young. I think she'd be one of 'those' parents that will be making all the decisions for her son and he'll end up rebelling later on

We have a mum at CG like that, except she smacked one of the kids, yelled at him and then wouldn't speak to the mother for the rest of the time. She puts other people's kids in time out etc. She over-reacts to things that her daughter doesn't even care about but makes all the kids cry because of her reaction. Quite pathetic really.
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Ha ha, I had a go at a lady for pointing at Sienna and telling her off, so yeah, if someone went so far as to touch one of them I'd be saying something!
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OMG emz now im curious as to which mum it is (at least i dont think its me cos im almost never at catch ups) i would have said something to her if she had done any of that to josh i mean my mate and i are happy to discipline each others kids cos we are together a lot and have the same ideas about it but if another mother did it i would speak up
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OMG if someone smacked my child - I would be absolutley LIVID. I would go mental at them, its different if its someone that you and your child both know, but even then I dont think smacking someone elses child is acceptable ever!!!!

 

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I went to pick up my DS1 from school one afternoon & DS2 who was going on 3 was playing in the play ground when he push another child who would not let him pass, well the father flew over grabed my child held him by the arms tightly yelling at him. I was sittting with some other mums & we were all shoocked, I raced over to my child & broke the grip of the parent who by the way was picking up a friends child & has no kids at the school.

I told him that if he ever touched my child again I would call the police, & maybe he should keep his child off the play ground if he can not handle little tiffs between kids.

I will remove my child from your child if my child is playing up, I will remove my child from yours if your child is playing up, I will not touch or interfear with your child, so don't think you can with MINE.

If it happens again tell her to talk to you, but don't touch your child or you will move hers.
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OMG Liz CONGRATS OT I know - tell the lady to keep her grimy mitts off your baby haha but YAY for the baby!!!!!!
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If she was worried about her son she should have moved him but she doesn't have any right to touch your son without your permission.
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