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Aw honey Im so sorry - its an awful feeling to go have scan and not see a heartbeat. I totally also know how you feel knowing your baby is dead inside you. I lost my daughter at 37 weeks and she was dead inside me for 4 days before I final gave birth, its heart breaking! In so many ways you just want them gone in other ways you don't.

I know I, like many others were desperate to fall pregnant again after our losses, its is very healing! I hope you get your dream of a kiwi baby!


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Miscarriage 6 weeks September 15
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so sorry about your loss Jes. I had the same experience in November and I am still coming to terms with it. at the time my mother was actually very ill in hospital, and so my grieving process for my own loss was kinda on hold. For me I was evry open about what had happened, as being around lots of pregnant woman, and babies as I was at Playcentre made me very emotional and i needed ppl to understand.
The feeling of pregnancy when knowing my baby had died was something that I couldnt handle so went for the d&c.
it was very quick, and i didnt have any pain or issues from it (that i am aware of!)
We started trying again after waiting one cycle (although I cant bring myself to really admit I am TTC as then each month the lack of a bfp would be so much harder to take iykwim)- and as others have said,, i think it takes your body a bit to get back to normal as I had a super light period which suggested there wasnt much for any cells to cling anyways....
my due date for my first mc is coming up in a week or so. so feeling reflective on that. But I am not sure how i will go in May with this second one... especially if im not pg again. but i cant control that.
just wanted to send you my thoughts- and know that you are not alone in this awful, most heartbreaking thing.
wishing you all the best in getting that kiwi baby you dream of xx

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Hi Jes,

That's awesome you have made a couple of friends, but yeh I can totally relate to the 'so not sure what to say' awkwardness! None of my friends have been through it either, so yes, it was really hard. I just did a lot of crying, days worth. And took a week off work, which I probably should have done 2 I think, just because of the emotional healing. My physical healing wasn't too bad at all to be honest. I only bleed heavy on the day of the op, and then another 3 or so days worth of light bleeding after that.
I was VERY stuck on the baby being dead inside me too, I couldn't believe it had been so long and I had no idea. I did read a beautiful thing about MMC's, that the mother's maternal instinct must have been so strong that it just was not prepared to let the baby go, so I hold onto that as a positive

Yes TTC definitely was my healing, there was no way I was going to wait as such, although the first cycle after was a bit of a write off due to healing physically etc. But after my first period (after D&C) we officially started. A lot of people get pregnant straight away, my body had other ideas haha. We are in Auckland, soon to relocate to Tauranga! Can't wait!

Yes the op was definitely as straight forward as they said, I lost a little bit of blood but nothing they were worried about. I was really scared and anxious, but you get to meet your surgeon before hand, and she was a lovely young chick so I could really relate to her, and she was so sweet, she told me they would take great care. And after the op they came to see me in recovery and told me they had a really good go at it and got everything as far as they were concerned, so I was really happy with that.
I went straight home from hospital after recovery and just slept for hours. Then cried some more, and then cried some more. Hubby cried, then I cried, and then after a couple of weeks I was back to my normal self!!   

All the best for tomorrow, I'll be thinking of you! Once your feeling good, let us know how your doing ok!

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Wow, I didn't think the support would be like this. It's sad we've all experienced this...but there is hope and it helps so much to hear others stories, so thank you for sharing. Every time you type it out or talk about it, you are reliving it and I know that has to be painful.

I'm heading to bed soon as I have my D&C early tomorrow morning. I'll relish in the last few hours of being pregnant with this little person. I'm hopefully for the future and another chance to experience pregnancy and hopefully become a mom. I knew I always wanted to be a mom and if that day comes, I'm going to love my baby even fiercer than I knew imaginable! I'll check back in soon.

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Hi ladies. I'm back from my D&C and actually doing surprisingly well. We had quite a long wait which was rough because I just wanted this nightmare to be all over with. My husband was great and we made the most of our time together. The procedure was over before I knew it and I woke up in recovery pretty quickly. They had per our request placed the remains in a box that was at the foot of my bed. It was hard to see that and I got teary eyed but also relieved it was over and I can start the process of healing. I've always loved my husband deeply and I don't know if this terrible experience was supposed to bring us even closer, but it has and I'm looking for the positives in this situation so I'll take it. I'm bleeding quite heavily as expected but laying low and waiting for a few friends to drop dinner off for us later. I'm feeling so much more hopeful than I was the last few days. I was in such a daze and actually hated that the sun was shining. When we left the hospital I commented on how nice the sun felt and the breeze driving home with the windows down.
I'm working on our little ceremony that we'll have for our baby. I've written down my thoughts and wanted to come up with a poem or something that we could frame and have as a reminder.
What have you chosen to do or make/buy as a reminder of your little one?
Hope you all are having a good day. I'm blessed to have had the chance and I know I'll get my time again. The doctor was the first person to say that I could go ahead after 2 weeks and that in his opinion women are very fertile after a D&C. I do think we'll wait 1 cycle just for peace of mind. I don't want to increase the chances of being back in this situation again so soon. I'm strong but don't want to push it:)
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Glad to hear from you Jes- and glad it went smoothly. That is great that they left you a box- for me they took it away (even tho I said no to tests) and I didn't get it back for weeks... I wrote a letter that we've buried with the tissue with a kowhai tree. I got myself a gemstone ring with a citrine stone to match my garnite one for my daughter- November is a yellow gemstone month and kowhai are yellow so I saw it as a sign. I couldn't bring myself to read the letter out load as we buried it. I didn't want to bust into tears with my 3yo. She didn't know what was happening (after the earlier mc we had decided not to tell her till 12 weeks and then you know what happened there). It still felt cathartic writing it. So I hope you are able to do something that resonates for you. Xxx
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Tonight we had a nice burial ceremony under a tree on Mount Victoria in Wellington. Sweet words were said, candles lit, and prayers offered up. We carved a heart with RIP and the date we found out there was no heartbeat. It was so so so sad but we both needed a good cry together. We now have a place to visit and it's time to move forward with hope but never forgetting.
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Hey Jes, nice to hear back from you so soon, so glad all went well & you are feeling good. Glad you recovered quickly that is awesome! So sweet they did the special little box for you guys, andyyour wee ceremony sounded just perfect
You should come & join us in 'The mighty tww' thread'

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Hi Ladies. I recognise a few of you from other forums and pages (Hi Anthea!)....

I just had a miscarriage (3rd) on Monday, but this time it was different for us. My first two were from non-viable embryos. This time, we had a healthy baby, had a great scan with a great heartbeat last Monday (8w2d), but by Wednesday had developed a large sub chorionic hemorrhage. Had a scan Thursday which diagnosed it but baby was still healthy. Ended up in the ED at hospital on Friday night with terrible pain, had a scan which showed a reduced heartbeat and then a scan this Monday morning sadly showing baby had no heartbeat and that baby stopped growing at 9w1d so Sunday. By 1.30pm I had taken Misoprostol, but had a bad reaction and within 10 minutes I was back in the ED after suffering a seizure from hyperventilating because of pain which came on so strong and fast I went into shock. By 8.30pm on so many IV painkillers I had passed out baby and the placenta (which was actually cathartic being able to see and have closure compared to my previous early miscarriages which were just blood really). And was out of hospital yesterday evening.

Now I'm just feeling f****d off and frustrated that I have to start at the beginning again with fertility treatments.
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Oh hun, you poor thing, I am so so so sorry to hear of this happening to you I remember when you announced this preg to us, was it in 2 week wait??
What an ordeal you've had to go through, how are you doing/feeling now? Such a frightening experience for you, and can completely appreciate the frustration you are feeling after going through treatment etc, it is a real kick in the guts I am sure. You are allowed to be f**ked off babe, it is good to get all of your emotions out so that you can heal and move forward.

I had a chem preg last cycle, and just got AF today, so am feeling a bit sorry for myself today.

Having had a D&C in November, I have no idea what it is like having a later natural/induced mc, but can understand that actually passing bubs would provide much more closure than just a flood of blood. My chem preg (at nearly 5 weeks), I was still convinced that things might still be ok, merely because it was so hard to believe I could just pass the little embryo like a normal AF, so bizarre a!

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Hey Mami, yeah it was on the 2 week wait forum... guess I will be back there soon enough.

I would like to start trying again, I don't cope well with waiting. But I'm uncertain about TTC when HCG is still in your system?

I see a few of you ahve talked about being very fertile after a D&C, does a D&C make your HCG drop down really quick or something? I thought it took weeks for HCG to get back to normal?
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Mount I am so sorry to see what has happened your body wont ovulate again until your hcg level has dropped low enough, how long this takes depends on how high it was in the first place and whether there is any retained products (which can delay it as your body tries to get rid of it). An early loss (CP) will usually be followed by a normal 4 week cycle as the hcg levels aren't huge, after my D&C at 14w I had no complications or retained products and it took 3 weeks for hcg to drop and to ovulate, giving me a 5 week cycle (which I thought wasn't too bad). I don't think it matters whether you have a D&C or tablets as long as nothing is left behind.
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Aw mount I'm so sorry - that's just so unfair xxx I've only just clicked who you are - how are you feeling now?

2furkids - how are you doing? How far along now?? That was a late miscarriage! I'm so sorry - what happened??


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Hey mount, sending you lots of love... It's bloody rough having a mc... I had a bad reaction with misoptostol as well, not very nice and pretty traumatic. I think it was far more traumatic than my labour and my labour was hectic (induced/posteria babe/forceps/vontuse/c section and then Neo Natel for a week).. Horrible horrible! I really don't recommend misoptostol you poor thing. I ended up having retained products for six months after misoptostol so I would really recommend that you're very firm with wanting follow up scans and bloods after this ordeal - and if you suspect things haven't returned to normal within a few months go straight through to a specalist.. Don't wait for six month like I did hearing from GPs that I was fine and it was impossible to have retained products! I had a D&C in December and concieved the next cycle so I do think it makes you particularly fertile .. The doctors said to me it was like a reset button for your body.
After D&C my cycles went back to proper 28/29 day cycles rather than 24 days when it was trying to get rid of rpoc.. I can't stress enough that you make sure you get comprehensive follow up.
Lots of love to you at the moment, just a horrid experience xx
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Anthea I'm over 13 weeks now, our baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18, so we made the decision to end the pregnancy due to the poor prognosis. Unfortunately the combined screening came back low risk anyway so this time we have opted to pay for prenatal screening which had a higher detection rate. Happy to say that it has just come back all clear!

Mount, I was told if still bleeding after 2 weeks to see my GP and get hcg levels checked, to see that they are dropping, just be firm with what you want if you feel you need it, I don't believe in overtesting for things.
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I had scan and bloods today. HCG is down to 3500 today from 62,000 on Friday. The doctor said he wanted to see it lower than that, damn I thought that was pretty good.

Scan shows a thick endometrial lining, I dont really know what that means. Im frustrated because my LMC is the one reviewing and giving me a follow up plan and he is old school. Im certain that he will either say "just wait it out for a bit" or to take more Misoprostol... I really dont want more of that sh*t. My first choice when at Hospital on Monday was for a D&C, unfortunately the young doctor there had virtually no information and she scared my husband into being very against me having a D&C. Now I wish I had just done that and Im pissed off.

We are meant to be attending a good friends wedding tomorrow, I told her when this was all happening so that she could plan if I didn't make it. My husband is adamant I'm going, he says I cant sit at home and do nothing and 'sulk' and the best way to move on is to get out there and socialise. I seriously don't want to but I don't have the energy for an argument. I just want some bloody space and cant think of anything worse than getting dressed up, having to handle pads/bleeding etc at a wedding, sit down for dinner and make polite conversation with people. He says it will be good for me because all my friends are there, but I dont want to ruin their night either, they are there to have a good time.

I seriously just want to fast forward a couple of weeks right now.

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There are risks with everything, I had the choice of a D&C when I was first admitted to hospital and said no as well, something that I often think about now.. But i figure at some stage I'll have another little baby in my arms and that will be the baby that I was meant to have. My mum miscarried between my brother and I, and if she hadn't then I wouldn't be here.. I try to think like that .. I say try because it's bloody hard.
I can totally understand not wanting to deal with everything at the wedding... Have a good sleep tonight and see how you feel tomorrow xx
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Oh Mount I'm so so sorry for your loss. Huge hugs to you. It's just not fair! Bugger the wedding I say! It's a hell of a lot more than sulking - your body has physically gone through something massive, that alone the effects of the rapid hormone shift. Take care x
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PS. So glad to see your tests came back all clear 2FurKids
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Thanks karenka, its definitely been a weight off my shoulders
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