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redtulip 
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 Posted: 28 June 2013 at 8:35pm |
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Hi ladies.... my acu lady didn't mention not trying until this month when dh and I had already bd'd.... but then I ov'd at totally different time to what I usually do so chances of bfp are very low. She wants my temps to improve first.
Monkeys - are you seeing a specialist/RPL clinic? Ask about the Colorado Protocol if you are able to. For anyone interested I've also been reading about Natural Killer cells (NT cells). Basically they are cells we all have in our bodies, they fight tumors and cells with viruses. Although controversial, it is thought (by some) that ladies that have recurrent m/c's may have elevated levels of NK cells and that this causes their body to terminate pregnancy. Anyway, part of following the Colorado Protocol includes using medication that prevents our body from doing this - among other drugs. Anyone else know much about the protocol or NK cells?
Sorry guys, bit heavy for a Friday evening lol! Hope you all have a great weekend.
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Posted: 28 June 2013 at 8:39pm |
Sorry Tans, reason I mentioned all this was because of what you'd said about your appt today and waiting 3 months - then I went off on a tangent! - meant to say that I'm really glad you had a positive experience and have new things to try. FX it's the key to a sticky, trouble-free pregnancy 
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Posted: 28 June 2013 at 10:21pm |
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I had two miscarriages at 6 weeks - both of them I had found out I was UTD at about 5 weeks. The other miscarriage I found out I was UTD at 4 weeks, had a scan at 6 weeks and there was no fetal pole. NS Hospital didn't allow me to go for a d&c until I would have been about 9 weeks "just in case."
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Posted: 29 June 2013 at 9:08pm |
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How are you getting on Avid? Are you feeling any better?
Nell, I saw in another thread that you may have a BFP!!! Fingers crossed. That's how my first one was - afternoon wees and so faint I thought I was seeing thing (but it was there!).
I admire you ladies for waiting 3 months... I couldn't do it. It's only been one month since my mc, and I can't wait to start again (though today I wondered if I could handle another mc so soon if things didn't work out again). I've heard in so many places that women are very fertile after a mc - I want to take full advantage of that!
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Posted: 29 June 2013 at 10:45pm |
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Hey a.girl and everyone! Im doing fine. Had a moment yesterday that was a little awkward, but got through it with the help of a very good friend.
I admit, I dont want to wait! DH wants to wait 1 month, so we are going to not try, but not prevent - I might do more of the not preventing than the not trying! haha. Im very much at the point now where I just want to move on, not forget that it happened, but concentrate on positive things, and hope that its only a one time occurence.
The thing about being very fertile after a mc is more anecdotal, there is no scientific studys to back it up - however Im also hoping for that!
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Posted: 30 June 2013 at 9:10am |
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I'm glad you're feeling a bit better, Avid. Those awkward moments seem to linger a bit more than I'd like them to, but I just take them in stride. Just keep looking to the future, but make sure you let yourself get upset if you feel that way. You want to make sure you deal with all these emotions before the next bubba makes his/her home inside you! I have a special necklace that a friend gave me to honor our angel - I think it's good for the same reasons you said. I don't want to forget, but I also want to move on.
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Posted: 30 June 2013 at 9:29am |
Really pleased you decided what you wanted to do Tan So, hope it works wonders for you like it has for our other ladies! Are you doing anything to celebrate what life your baby had Avid? Or something as a loving reminder? DH and I buried the placenta in a HUGE pot (because we rent atm and plan on transporting) with a blossoming sweet smelling tree. It's blossoming at the moment which is really funny considering all the cold and frosts we have had lately. My mom also gave me a silver bracelet with a heart charm that I wear everyday. a.girl I did another test this morning, stark white BFN. Stupid tests!
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Posted: 30 June 2013 at 12:23pm |
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oh nell thats annoying! I am going to plant a rose bush in our house - what ever house we manage to buy (we definitely want to buy a house, still hoping for the one we put an offer on but will have to wait and see).
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Posted: 30 June 2013 at 12:28pm |
Hi guys thought I'd join in here too if that is ok with you guys. This is a great super supportive thread so just had to join in! Already know lots of you from other threads but for those I don't know we had a mc last year in early Nov, it was a missed miscarriage, started spotting and cramping so asked for a scan when we discovered no heart beat, it had had a good strong heart beat at a scan at 6 weeks. Baby had stopped growing at about 7 weeks. Had the miscarriage naturally that night, was a horrible experience painful like a labour. I know everyone has different mc experiences but now I which I'd been in hospital and the other thing I wish I'd done differently is take iron tablets/a good multivitimen afterwards as I was run down afterwards. Re ttc after mc, we waited one month and then getting back into it helped with grieving, it felt good to be moving on. Monkeys and Tan having a few months off while you get super healthy sounds like a great idea, I didn't have the disapline to do that dispite a natropath recommending it. Avid and a.girl, sorry to hear about your recent losses, big hugs to you guys  Nel stink re bfn this morning! stupid tests indeed! I am going to test tomorrow probably, af slightly late now which of course means nothing but have my hopes up!
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Posted: 30 June 2013 at 2:04pm |
Welcome to this thread, Pitter Patter. I'm sorry that your circumstances put you here, but we're happy to have you Thanks for your support and encouragement Avid, the rose bush sounds like a great idea. I was actually upset with my friend buying me my necklace with our angel baby's birthstone in it (though I never told her) but I was very grateful for her gesture. Over the last 2 weeks though, I have really come to appreciate it and love what it means. Initially, I think it was a bit much for me though. Nell, sorry to hear about the BFN. Onwards and upwards!
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Posted: 30 June 2013 at 2:34pm |
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Thanks for the welcome a. girl. It is nice to have something to remember the lost baby by-nice that you like the necklace now. A friend who had also had a mc gave me a crystal which I have hanging in the sun, I really like it-it reminds me of the baby but in a nice way, and it makes rainbows in the sun- rainbow babies is what they call babies born after a baby loss- I quite like that
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Posted: 01 July 2013 at 4:00pm |
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hey redtulip - where can I find out more about the colorado protocol? Have heard it in relation to IVF but that is all, and just tried to google but couldnt really find much relating to MC and what would be involved. We have been seeing FA however haven't been overly happy with numerous things to be fair
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Posted: 01 July 2013 at 7:01pm |
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Hi there,
I saw the naturopath on Friday and thought I would share some of the recommendations she has made to help with fertility and a healthy lining. I also need to lose some weight, so some of her recommendations were for this.
First and foremost, a good prenatal vitamin - I use Solgar.
Next, a herbal formula made up of the following: Chaste Tree (Vitex),Shatavari, Withania, Bupleurum and Licorice. This is meant to be good for uterine health, a healthy lining, progesterone production and hormone balance.
She also recommended Vitamin C - 1000mg. This can improve overall fertility outcomes as an antioxidant for the ovaries.
Vitamin E for ovarian health and hormonal balance.
Cinnamon - for increased blood flow to the uterus. I think she means the proper cinnamon from a herbal dispensary, as opposed to the stuff from the supermarket.
Oh and also, Zinc - for both of us. We are taking Zinc drops in water - no taste and DH doesn't mind, so that's good. Zinc is really important for good fertility apparently.
Anyway, that's about it. It'll cost a bit, but I am keen to give it all a go. Hope it's helpful for some of you.
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Posted: 02 July 2013 at 1:40pm |
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Hi everyone, I'm just lurking around here, really love reading everyone's posts and I'm sorry for the pain you have all endured. I just got my 3rd BFP this morning, have had 2 early miscarriages this year already so I am hoping and praying this isn't another.
I've been feeling really run down since miscarrying a month ago too, just trying to take care of myself, get lots of sleep, take all my vitamins etc..
Thanks for the advice on the vitamin C, definitely going to add that to the long list of supplements I take!!
Anyway hope you all have a wonderful week x
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Posted: 02 July 2013 at 1:55pm |
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RT just wanted to mention about temps - mine is like yours, usually 35.5 - 35.9 before ovulation and my coverline is usually 36.1ish after ovulation, with temps usually sitting around 36.3-36.4
So low!
I did ask my acupuncturist about it and she does ask me to use a hot water bottle pre-ovulation.
I asked the Dr too but they had no idea what it meant!
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Posted: 02 July 2013 at 4:09pm |
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Congrats Julietta. I hope everything works out for you this time... 3rd time lucky!!! Did you only mc a month ago and are already UTD??? Good work :-)
My HCG is finally down to 7. Yay! I thought I'd never be celebrating falling HCG's but it's been a loooooong last few weeks watching them fall so slowly. I can't believe how slowly those last few fall. It took a week to go from 15 to 7!
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Posted: 02 July 2013 at 6:39pm |
Awesome Julietta! That's fab news - 3rd time lucky alright I hope its a drama free, enjoyable pregnancy for you. Isn't it great when your hcg levels drop! Just means its all good to get back on the horse again 
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Posted: 02 July 2013 at 8:07pm |
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Avid, I saw in another thread that you're on CD9 after a mc... me too! Well, I think. I had a funny period like thing 9 days ago but I'm not sure what it was. I've been opk-ing for the last few days cause I don't want to miss it. I know my HCG's are only at 7 now, but I could ovulate anytime (well, I'm hoping to anyway). Good luck to you!!!!
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Posted: 02 July 2013 at 8:21pm |
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Avid, look at our charts side by side from the charting girls thread - they're so similar in temps for the last few days. Coincidence???
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Posted: 03 July 2013 at 7:23am |
Hi ladies, Monkeys, sorry for late reply - actually typed out a long one last night and lost it before I posted it - Arggggggh! So wanted to get baack to you about the Colorado Protocol. The Specialist at the RPL clinic suggested I look it up after my last appt (after 4th m/c) as she said it's an option for next time. Most of what I found also related to IVF. I asked about it on another forum and a lady there said she had followed the CP during all 3 of her successful pregnancies (all IVF). It basically was: taking Augmentin (or a similar antibiotic) to help prevent infection. Taking Prednisone to suppress immune system and stop auto-immune response such as your body seeing the pregnancy as a foreign object and trying to attack it (thats when I started reading about NK cells, sure i mentioned in a previous post), taking Clexane or similar to help thin the blood, prevent clots and assist blood flow to the uterus. So, sounds pretty full-on but definitely will be pushing for it next time round, even if just to feel I'm doing as much as humanly possible to help prevent another m/c. Will also be using progesterone suppositories again. Really sorry to hear FA haven't been what you expected - is there a chance you could see someone else for another opinion? I often feel frustrated by the people I see - but I guess without them being able to find a problem it makes it hard to know what to treat. That's why I'm liking the sound of the CP - sounds like it covers alot of 'could be' causes. I will definately let you know whenever I find out anything else. Julietta, wishing you heaps and heaps of luck for a sticky bean this time around. Sounds like you are being really sensible and putting your needs first - good on you! It can sometimes be a bit hard joining a 'due in' thread after previous m/c so if you want to hang out here and have us all cheer you on you're more than welcome (sure no one will mind). It's just nice to have somewhere to come for support. Really interesting about your temps too. So how often/when were you using the hot water bottle? Makes sense! I've been wearing lots of layers to bed (ha, ha - poor dh - what a passion killer!!) and my temps have gone up a bit. Have acupuncture today and she said she was going to start me on Kidney Yin (?) herbs which should help raise temp... so will see. Will let you know how it goes just out of interest. Tans, glad to see things are going well for you, really hope it does the trick! A.girl - great that your hcg level has dropped. Hi Pitter patter and BG Sorry if I've missed anyone.
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