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Thanks RT, I think I will wait a bit before joining the due in thread so would love to hang out here!

So I use the hot water bottle from the first day of AF until I ovulate, I keep it right on my stomach/upper body (when I'm in bed). She doesn't advise using it after ovulation just in case there's an embryo in there!

My acupuncturist doesn't seem to be much of a herbalist so I find all the herb stuff super fascinating!
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Oh a.girl, we are cycle buddies! Im going to start OPK's on the weekend I think, Im checking CM as well, and dont want to start OPK's too soon, dont want to waste them. As mentioned in another thread, I did use one this morning just to see what my levels would be like on an OPK test, and was a complete negative, so looks like levels have dropped really quickly. so we should be testing around the same time as well! I usually have longer cycles - about 32 days, so ov about day 16.
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Cycle-buddy-Avid, I've been using opk's everyday because I'm worried about missing the surge since I'm sure my hormones are totally messed up. I did an opk 2 and a half weeks ago, the day after my spotting stopped from my mc, and it was positive (hcg was still in my system) but it was negative later on that day. Strange! Then I had that funny period thing last week (10 days after the +opk). I'm sure my levels are all over the place! Long story short, for the sake of a $10, I started testing early. I have no idea what my cycles will be like - I was on the pill for so long then got UTD straight after I stopped taking it.

We're happy to have you hanging out with us, Julietta. I TOTALLY understand your apprehension to the Due In threads. We can all live vicariously through you!

Redtulip, when is your next round of IVF? Good luck!!!
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A.girl, I think im going to start testing tonight, just to be sure! hehe, I got them off trademe, $20 for 40 of them, so in the scheme of things not that big a deal! and to think I almost gave them away when I got my BFP!
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Hiya... glad you're going to stay in with us Julietta... stay as long as you want.

a.girl, I'm not doing IVF, sorry - probably confused you because i said my specialist has suggested I try medications that are commonly used by ladies that are doing IVF. It may help me the next time I get utd. Can only try.

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opps. Sorry Redtulip. I was a bit confused. I hope it works for you. I've never heard of that before, but as I have heard heaps about women miscarrying because they're bodies treat the wee group of cells as a pathogen. I actually just taught my 7th form chem class about how HCG's (an amino acid) polarity keeps the antibodies from killing it. I find the science of the is all so interesting!
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ps- redtulip, how far along were you with your mc's? Were they early? DId you ever get tests done?
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Hi a.girl - no prob - great to know you're a chemistry teacher if I ever need to ask anything lol! I've lost all 4 pregnancies early - between 5 - 6 weeks. The first two weren't tested but had karyotype tests done for 3rd and 4th. The tests showed that 3rd pregnancy was totally healthy and would have been a boy. Tests after 4th m/c showed that it had occurred because of Trisomy 16. So at least results of last one showed nothing could have prevented the outcome - was very sad after knowing the results of 3rd tho... especially finding out what the sex of our bean would have been - m/c is hard enough and it just made it that bit more personal (if that makes sense?) But still happy we found out.
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How is everyone going? We are approaching ov, gonna hit it hard this month. haha.. I just want it to happen now, sick of all this waiting Been reading up on the acupuncture thread and thinking that its probably something I should be looking in to but realistically its just not affordable at the moment being on one income. DH would freak, I couldn't do it to him. So I need to take control myself as best I can which means sorting out my diet and exercise. So I'm not going to wait until Monday, I'm going to start tomorrow and make a real effort Go me!
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Yay babygiraffe, sounds like a great plan!!
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Hi ladies,

Just sneak in to wish you all the best for your TTC journey. Me too had 2 losses in the last 6 months, i just actually completed my 3rd IVF and doing another one on sept/oct. if you are keen please read my post older post of our TTC journey via IVF/PGD due hubby has rare bone disease will pass on to our child if not biopsy. So our embryos has to be tested in Monash Australia and transferred at day 5 or six. In the last cycle 5/5 of my beautiful blastocyst grade 1 embryos were affected by the disease so i had no transfer at all. The first and second fresh IVF/PGD resulted in BFP and miscarried.

I do have some good knowledge of IVF journey, process, good supplements for egg quality etc so if you have any questions please feel free to ask. Iam not always here because i was discovered here and introduced to other closed group of TTC ladies but i do get message if anyone comment on my post.

Good luck ladies, have faith and i always believe miracle do happens!

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Thanks Rosey :)

This month I've decided to start tracking things - have just finished AF (my second one since mc) but it was a bit strange (for me anyway) - my first AF after mc was about 3 days of bleeding (a little heavier than usual but more bright red in terms of the bleeding) but this one has been 6 days of light spotting only ... I hope it's ok - might have to start paying more attention to previous tips on here about uterine/lining health etc!
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RT, that's good that you had the testing done with the last two, but it must be SO hard knowing that the 3rd one was didn't have any chromosomal problems. I find comfort in thinking that our mc was because the wee bean couldn't develop any further.

Thanks for popping in Daros :-) Good to have someone some support in that area if we need it. Sounds like your journey has been quite long and difficult. All the best in Sept/Oct for you!!!!
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Hi guys, can't sleep so what better to do than oh baby.
Was really interested to read about this Colorado protocol, last time I got pregnant I was on antibiotics for a bad throat infection and taking lots of disperin for pain (obviously didn't think I was pregnant). I had been thinking with the benefit of hindsight that all those disperin for blood thining might have helped and maybe even the antibiotics too, hmm. Lost the baby after I was better and wasn't on antibiotics or taking disperin.
Redtulip I am useless at sticking to temping but when ever I have I have had similar low temps, had read it could be caused by sleeping with my mouth open-do you do that? Did you Julietta? Also could be hypothyroidism, which I have been tested for as have many symptoms of it but was told all ok. Anyways I should ask my acupuncturist about it.Also hot water bottle sounds a gd idea
Rosey really hope your next IVF round works xx
BG your new health kick is inspiring, how did day 1 go? Good on youSmile
Tan thanks for the info from your natropath, not sure if said that to you already

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Oooh PP I hadn't heard about the mouth open thing.. I'm not sure if I do! I know I clench my teeth in my sleep because I wake up with an aching jaw!

I have thought about hypothyroidism, my results came back ok for that, but I wonder if I have a mild case of it as I do have a few of the symptoms..
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What does the hot water bottle on the stomach do? I think I missed something
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Hi ladies some of you may know my situation but for those that don't here goes. At my 12 week scan they found excess fluid around baby's head and neck. For the next 6 weeks we had lots of tests, scans and appointments to see what was going on and if it would improve. Unfortunately it didn't and my DH and I made the heartbreaking decision to end the pregnancy. Though my body seem to be starting all on its own. On Thursday I gave birth to a beautiful boy, Connor Fraser at 2.25pm. He was obvisiously sick so we knew we made the right decision. We are now grieving for a baby we so desperately wanted. We had been trying for 16 months and had 2 rounds of clomid to get pregnant and this was the first time I'd ever been pregnant.

Now after that novel my question is, when did you all start trying again? I've had conflicting reports from different people and now in confused. DH and I want to start as soon as possible incase it takes that long again. We are ofcourse terrified of what might happen next time but are willing to give it another shot.

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Blondie - my heart goes out to you. I have been thinking of you lots and I always had that little bit of hope that things might turn out okay, as I am sure you did.

As for trying again, what has your doctor said? As far as I know, there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying again as soon as you are mentally ready, unless you are told otherwise. Sometimes, if there is damage to your body or something that needs investigating, they may tell you to wait. I think only you and DH know when is the right time emotionally. I think you need to consider how you would feel if you got pg again first pop. I do know someone who did and wished they had waited longer. Physically and emotionally, it was very trying for them. But now they have their baby and of course, are very happy.

After my first m/c, we tried again after I had gotten my first AF. It took us 5 months. With the second m/c, we have still not really tried. I wasn't ready physically or emotionally, and we were having tests and procedures done. We didn't really want to conceive until we knew for sure that we were okay.

I wish you all the best in making your decision. It is only yours to make. xxx


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Blondie, tears still come to my eyes when I read your story I keep trying to thing of things to help comfort you, but if you're anything like I was, nothing helps other than knowing people are thinking of you and wishing you well. Welcome to our group of lovely, supportive and helpful ladies.

My mc only happened 5 weeks ago, so we're still in the stage of waiting to see what my body's doing. I had a funny period like think 3 weeks after the mc, but I still had an HCG level of 15, so I'm not too sure what it was. We decided after that to treat it like a period and start trying, so I'm tracking my ovulation now and trying again.

I found it helped to have a few weeks of mourning but I needed to start looking ahead to stop me from feeling so depressed. Focusing on the future has helped me from dwelling in the past or the "what should be" thinking. Everyone's so different though. My doctor said to wait until I had a normal period, but she also said they recommend that for dating purposes. Who knows what's normal after a mc!?!?!!? My body has definitely changed in the lady dept since the preg and mc. I feel the same as you - I don't want to wait in case it takes a long time. Trust your body and your intuition.
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Blondie, I wish to send you the biggest hugs, and positive thoughts.

I MC at 6w5d so cant say I know what you are going though. I did enquire about when we can start again. My GP said we can start right away, my midwife said to wait a month, and another Dr (my boss) suggested waiting a couple of months. Doing the reading there is no scientific reason to try again immediately or to wait a couple of months.

I think if everything is ok physically, as in you had a complete MC, then there is no physical reason you cant try again immediately. I know Drs/midwives do say to wait a month to make things easier for dating, but as my GP pointed out they have dating scans for that!

Mentally, you have to make that decision and everyone is Different. I absoloutly see where DH is coming from, even though we fell pregnant fairly easily, I really want to try again immediately, while DH wants to wait a month. For me I have acknowledged my baby, and grieved, and still grieve, but I want to move on as quickly as possible, and to try get pregnant again so I can celebrate joy. DH is keen to try but just wants a month to move on. We have come to the agreement not to try this month, but not prevent.

At the end of the day there is no right or wrong answer, you have to do what is right for you and your DH. There is no scientific evidence that you will more easily fall pregnant after a MC, but there is a LOT of anecdotal evidence.

What ever you decide, I hope things happen quickly for you.
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