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    Posted: 15 May 2008 at 11:36am
Ok I just need some help making my decision for which daycare to use. I have rung up about 20 but only 2 will suit us. So what one would you choose?

Option one:
-No cloth nappies
-Provides food
-Is newer and has better toys
-Seems better set up and better routines
-Cool wee outdoor area (Jack is an outdoor kid)
-They have to do a full day when I'm using it part time (only really NEED 3 hours a week)
-Is a bit more expensive
-Staff seemed a bit more friendly
-Is a franchise
-Jack is very reserved when it comes to new places and he took off as soon as we got there and didn't want to go home

Option two:
-Does cloth nappies
-We provide own food
-Is in an old building and seems quite cold and dirty
-Seems like the kids just run riot
-They have an indoor gym
-The outside area isn't that great but they are planning things for it
-They only have to do 2 afternoons rather than a whole day
-Only has 2 centres
-Is cheaper
-Jack was a bit more reserved (but was feeling sick)


I know what one I like but it seems silly to base my decision purely on looks. Is there anything else I should look out for?

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Option 1 sounds the best but its stinky they don't do cloth!
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I would go for the first option. There is a lot to be said for a place that provides all food, and has good quality equipment and toys. Also, if Jack was happy there straight away then thats a good sign.

And I know you are very pro-cloth, which is all good, so if I were you my only concern would be having to have them in sposies while they are there.

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I'd take your que's from Jack. If he was feeling it at the first one, well go for that. Maybe do one more visit at both at a different time of day and see what they are doing?

Do they do teacher/child activities in groups? That's what I liked about Nyah's daycare.
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Find out how many qualified staff there are per number of kids. Yeah like Mel said what sort of activities do they do, whats the daily plan?
Why is it better that the centre is part of a franchise?
Why wont they let u use cloth, it sucks having to buy sposies just for daycare. Do u know it its an no-nigotiable rule,..or once u show them what they are like, and what u need them to do with them, would it maybe be ok.
We are the only ones at Isla's daycare that use cloth, but the staff think its great, and it was never an issue!

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Is there any other options? Neither of those sound ideal unless #1 will be persuaded accept cloth!

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The only reason I mentioned the franchise was because I wasn't sure if it was a good or bad thing?

No they won't do cloth, I've already tried they said they don't have the facilities but i might keep working on it. One kid there is in cloth but only because hes allergic to disposables. They provide the wipes and everything so I think they like to be in control of it all. I don't mind the kids being in disposables i just don't want to buy them lol

Do they do teacher/child activities in groups? That's what I liked about Nyah's daycare

Yip they do.

Ok i think I have made my decision then kindercare it is Thanks everyone
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I am putting Spencer in for two afternoon starting next week and I picked the oldest looking place out of all of them. My reasons being

Place number 1
Brand new
Excellent facilities
would do cloth
strict routines
seemed unhomely/production line like

Place number 2
nursery only seperated from preschool by 3 foot partition.
Very loud
didn't like sleep set up
didn't do hours that suit me best

Place number 3
sister of place 2 but runs more hours
nursery seperate
they were very busy.
do cloth nappies
nice outside area which is due to be redone.
have set activities each day

Place number 4
older building but still lots of good equipment
great outside area
run reggio emilia approach to teaching
teachers showed me around rather than supervisor
do cloth naps
more of a homely enviroment and they have less children on the days Spencer will be going.

Basically Spencer I spent half and hour looking around them all and then yesterday we went back to place 4 and spent 2 hours. He joined in with all the activities and sat and had afternoon tea with the other babies. I got to watch how the teachers interact with the children and I didn't see anything I didn't like. I also prefer their child led teaching approach as opposed to the other centres that had set out activities.

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I would go with the first one.....stink about the cloth thing!

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Yeah I dont understand why some centres dont let u . If u provide a scented wet bag, flushable liners, and the nappies and stuyffed and ready to go,...then whats the prob?! I only send the aplix (velro) nappies to dayacare cos Ive found that sometimes if the person is not used to snaps, they do it up too loose!
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Originally posted by Kellz Kellz wrote:

Yeah I dont understand why some centres dont let u . If u provide a scented wet bag, flushable liners, and the nappies and stuyffed and ready to go,...then whats the prob?! I only send the aplix (velro) nappies to dayacare cos Ive found that sometimes if the person is not used to snaps, they do it up too loose!


Thats what I thought too, they said they don't have a sluce whatever that is. I'm going to keep working at it tho hehe
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I personally favour parent co-operative centres. It means a bit more work on the part of the parents but the whole philosophy behind it suits me that much more.

Rach: re cloth nappies. I'd take them in and show them... they won't get it til they see it.

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Originally posted by RachandJack RachandJack wrote:

The only reason I mentioned the franchise was because I wasn't sure if it was a good or bad thing?

No they won't do cloth, I've already tried they said they don't have the facilities but i might keep working on it. One kid there is in cloth but only because hes allergic to disposables. They provide the wipes and everything so I think they like to be in control of it all. I don't mind the kids being in disposables i just don't want to buy them lol

Do they do teacher/child activities in groups? That's what I liked about Nyah's daycare

Yip they do.

Ok i think I have made my decision then kindercare it is Thanks everyone


ugh it annoys me when places say this..they dont realise new cloth nappies arent such a problem..i was one place where we had old cloth nappies! in the case of the first one sometimes franchises are worse but that one is really good.. oh i just read the end....yeah sounds like it suits you better (except stupid rule about cloth..)
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a sluice is like a big sink with a thing in it to send poos down it ..but its no different putting them in nappy bin or whatever they do if they have liners...weird:(it depends what you are after...I've worked for both sorts(including kindercare and a homely place) and both places have great things.. Kindercare's food is done by a nutritionist as well.. (the menu)
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Isla daycare provide the wipes too, but still they are more than happy to use cloth,...one of the staff even appologised to me last week for having to use a disposable on Isla (that I had in her bag for just in case) cos I hadnt supplied enough cloth nappies that day!
You are spossed to drop the poos off disposables into the loo anyway, so tipping the cloth nappy up so the disposable liner and poo falls in the loo, then putting the nappy in the bag provided instead of the bin,...is almost no diff!!
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Originally posted by nikkiwhyte nikkiwhyte wrote:

I personally favour parent co-operative centres. It means a bit more work on the part of the parents but the whole philosophy behind it suits me that much more.

Rach: re cloth nappies. I'd take them in and show them... they won't get it til they see it.


I didn't even know there were such places? I don't want to put too much on my plate for full time study tho.

I might casually ask one of the other teachers about cloth and then bring them in. The fact that they already have one in cloth means there is room to push

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If they are mentioning this "sluce" point out they are supposed to flush the poo from sposies too - ask them what they do with that, because all they need to do is tip it down the loo, and they should have those for TTing kids!

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Originally posted by RachandJack RachandJack wrote:

Originally posted by nikkiwhyte nikkiwhyte wrote:

I personally favour parent co-operative centres. It means a bit more work on the part of the parents but the whole philosophy behind it suits me that much more.


I didn't even know there were such places? I don't want to put too much on my plate for full time study tho.


There are heaps of them around.

It basically means that parents act as a board of trustees type of thing. As in there are different committes, staffing, environment, policy etc which you can join... Also the centres are usually non-profit - all the money goes back into the centre and fees are kept as low as poss.

It doesn't actually mean any more work for the parents, I mean, I work full time so I can't commit to more stuff! But I did participate in a working bee a few weeks ago in the weekend and it was really cool getting involved.
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Ooo.. kindercare! I wanted to send my Jack there but the cost was way out of our reach. Looks fab though!
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emz-it is fab in terms of teaching and food esp:) which is weird for me as i dont generally like big places... and rach not sure which ones i think ones like just kids are in bickerton st but not sure
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